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Old 11-15-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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With the latest admission by an Obamacare author, who said the american public is stupid and needs to be lied to in order to get bills passed.

Why exactly would you believe anything the government says in regards to things like

Global warming, stimulus spending, government solvency, reasons for unemployment being so low, the economic status of the nation etc...

I take everything that comes from a politician and assume it not entirely accurate, especially if it makes absolutely no sense, you know, things like "welfare stimulates", "Bush deficits crashed the economy but Obama deficits 5x as much is supposed to save it"....

but you guys on the left seem to take everything that comes from this administration and not only dont question it, but stand here stomping your feet telling everyone its the truth and if others dont understand it, then they are the stupid ones..

As with Obamacare, it was the supporters being called stupid by the very same individuals who passed it and much of the proposed outcomes from the bill, which those of us laughed at as not even possible to take place, but you now move the goal post and continue to argue its a success.

ACA was to insure every american, but any thinking person knows that it relied upon taxes of the uninsured to pay for everyone else. Thats why the CBO said it would never fall below 30 million uninsured.
ACA was to take the young premiums to lower the cost, but then they took these young and added it to the parents policies, thus removing them from the paying side of the equasion, but not the expense, meaning prices were not only not going to be lower because of them, but now higher..

I often sit here in amazement at how many stupid ignorant people there are that buys the bs from this administration.
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Old 11-15-2014, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Because truth is treason in an empire of lies.
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Old 11-15-2014, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Boy, I can't wait to see the moonbat playbook come out on this one... The mental illness and stupidity Gruber talked about is going to shine through.
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Old 11-15-2014, 06:47 PM
 
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Conservatives, why do you believe 2000 year books written to control illiterate peasants so often? Why do you believe the world was created in 7 days? Why do you believe an omnipotent god cares about men fooling around with each other? Why do you blindly adhere to an ancient book, angrily shout down anyone who defies it in the smallest way, yet have the highest divorce rate (which the Bible forbids)?
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Old 11-15-2014, 06:49 PM
 
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Conservatives, why do you believe 2000 year books written to control illiterate peasants so often? Why do you believe the world was created in 7 days? Why do you believe an omnipotent god cares about men fooling around with each other? Why do you blindly adhere to an ancient book, angrily shout down anyone who defies it in the smallest way, yet have the highest divorce rate (which the Bible forbids)?
I'm a conservative thats non religious and have no problem with gays.

/FAIL

Dont hijack my thread with this bull ****.
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Old 11-15-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Conservatives, why do you believe 2000 year books written to control illiterate peasants so often? Why do you believe the world was created in 7 days? Why do you believe an omnipotent god cares about men fooling around with each other? Why do you blindly adhere to an ancient book, angrily shout down anyone who defies it in the smallest way, yet have the highest divorce rate (which the Bible forbids)?
The Bible doesn't forbid divorce. Just most of them that are happening these days.
Believe or not believe, will it change anything? America voted him in as the best choice of two candidates.
"Oh no, that shouldn't have happened! America made a huge mistake!"

Nope. The GOP didn't have the better candidate or the better campaign and they blew it.
They had a flip flopper who gave the perception that he thought many Americans were worthless chumps. Yay for that guy? He's going to be the man in charge?

The slogan for their campaign was literally, "We are not Obama." I bet you don't believe that.
Here's a pic. Enjoy. That slogan says it all. What was their big plan to fix stuff? To not be Obama. Wow. Anything else? Got some solid plans? Sure. Let's shut down the government. That'll show them we're not like Obama.
http://hungeree.com/wp-content/uploa...-romney-hg.jpg

You might not believe in global warming, but I bet you believe in oysters.
Oysters started dying by the billions along the Northwest coast in 2005
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Old 11-15-2014, 07:02 PM
 
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To think that current democrats are actual democrats and not DINO's is laughable. They couldn't have the public OPTION on the ACA because many democrats believed they would be labeled as socialists.

By the way, the same critical scrutiny I have given bush is the same I have given Obama. Obama has lied so much and has turned out nothing like what many thought we voted for the first time. In reality, obama was sadly just the lesser of two bad options for this country.

But I find it funny though that so many citizens have criticized our govt yet how many of the same people were re elected. What close to 80%? And yet people will still complain but I have come to realize people are more talk than action
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Old 11-15-2014, 07:48 PM
 
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But I find it funny though that so many citizens have criticized our govt yet how many of the same people were re elected. What close to 80%? And yet people will still complain but I have come to realize people are more talk than action
Because locally, politician do a good job, I just don't like their messing around with the federal government.
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Old 11-15-2014, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Conservatives, why do you believe 2000 year books written to control illiterate peasants so often? Why do you believe the world was created in 7 days? Why do you believe an omnipotent god cares about men fooling around with each other? Why do you blindly adhere to an ancient book, angrily shout down anyone who defies it in the smallest way, yet have the highest divorce rate (which the Bible forbids)?
Millions of conservatives don't care very much about religion.

Why do so many of the people that vote for Democrats go to church every week, yet have more single parent households than any other grouop?
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Old 11-15-2014, 08:46 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Why exactly would you believe anything the government says in regards to things like

Global warming,
Liberals believe (scientists) in matters of global warming. Conservatives believe Fox news, Rush radio, and corporate connected republican politicians (who say global warming is a hoax because combating global warming would decrease corporate profits.)

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stimulus spending,
Multiple choice, A. or B.

A.) Stimulus spending.
B.) Romney's Economic Plan Includes $6.6 Trillion Tax Cut For The Rich And Corporations | ThinkProgress

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I take everything that comes from a politician and assume it not entirely accurate, especially if it makes absolutely no sense, you know, things like "welfare stimulates", "Bush deficits crashed the economy but Obama deficits 5x as much is supposed to save it"....
Welfare gives people money to spend. They spend the money in stores and that stimulates the economy.
Does consumer spending not stimulate the economy?

And Obama has cut GW Bush's deficits and debt growth rate in 1/2.
http://www.skymachines.com/US-Nation...ental-Term.htm

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But you guys on the left seem to take everything that comes from this administration and not only dont question it, but stand here stomping your feet telling everyone its the truth and if others dont understand it, then they are the stupid ones..
Liberals would love to criticize Obama for many things, but we can't because the corporate Fox news, Rush radio, and Tea Party manipulators will not have intelligent conversations.

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As with Obamacare, it was the supporters being called stupid by the very same individuals who passed it and much of the proposed outcomes from the bill, which those of us laughed at as not even possible to take place, but you now move the goal post and continue to argue its a success.
Republicans in Washington 'literally' want Obamacare to fail, that's why they don't fix it. There are only (3) republicans in Washington that want to fix Obamacares problems (the rest of them want Obamacare to hurt people, to get them mad at democrats.)
Kingston: O-Care failure not 'responsible' | TheHill

Obamacare is a political weapon, so the corporate backed republicans win elections and get tax cuts for the rich and corporate deregulation.

Rand Paul's fix for Detroit: lower taxes for the rich, more pollution & lower wages for the poor


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ACA was to insure every american, but any thinking person knows that it relied upon taxes of the uninsured to pay for everyone else. Thats why the CBO said it would never fall below 30 million uninsured.
ACA was to take the young premiums to lower the cost, but then they took these young and added it to the parents policies, thus removing them from the paying side of the equasion, but not the expense, meaning prices were not only not going to be lower because of them, but now higher..

I often sit here in amazement at how many stupid ignorant people there are that buys the bs from this administration.
Obamacare is a direct copy of Romneycare.
Obamacare vs Romneycare - Difference and Comparison | Diffen

Obamacare reduces our federal deficits.
CBO Confirms Obamacare Reduces Deficits - US News

But Obamacare does have many problems, and republicans refuse to fix them. But if republicans fix Obamacare they loose their political weapon.

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