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Old 11-16-2014, 06:20 PM
 
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Glad it wasnt the Ancient Aliens theory !
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How does anyone discover a land that is already occupied by human beings?
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:30 PM
 
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Erdogan has been smoking too much of that Turkish hashish.....


And actually stone age Europeans might have arrived here before the Amerindians

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Stone-age Europeans 'were the first to set foot on North America'
Stone-age Europeans were the first to set foot on North America, beating American Indians by some 10,000 years, new archaeological evidence suggests.
Stone-age Europeans 'were the first to set foot on North America' - Telegraph
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:55 PM
 
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Erdogan says Muslims, not Columbus, discovered Americas

Soon we'll be hearing how the US is occupied Islamic land

That must be some good hashish, ErDOGan!
These Muslims are unbelievable and God know where they get this stuff!
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:05 PM
 
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The country that still denies the Armenian Genocide... What do you expect? Turkish liberals hate him
Just because some 22 nations with obsessive Armenian lobbies say it was genocide doesn't make it true. Most Western historians, scholars, and academics who specialize in Ottoman history, including the most reputable ones, reject the "genocide" label. Regardless of what you think of him, Erdogan in 2005 called for a joint commission of third-party historians to investigate the 1915 events and even offered to pay reparations to Armenians if it were determined to be genocide, and while several international bodies like the EU responded favorably to this gesture, the Armenians declined.

This is because it would require the Armenians to make their historical archives available to independent parties, and the evidence would likely further prove the relocations of 1915-1916 were a security measure in response to a massive Armenian rebellion attempt to forge a homogenous state in Eastern Anatolia through an ethnic and religious cleansing of the majority Muslim population.
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:44 PM
 
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Just because some 22 nations with obsessive Armenian lobbies say it was genocide doesn't make it true. Most Western historians, scholars, and academics who specialize in Ottoman history, including the most reputable ones, reject the "genocide" label. Regardless of what you think of him, Erdogan in 2005 called for a joint commission of third-party historians to investigate the 1915 events and even offered to pay reparations to Armenians if it were determined to be genocide, and while several international bodies like the EU responded favorably to this gesture, the Armenians declined.

This is because it would require the Armenians to make their historical archives available to independent parties, and the evidence would likely further prove the relocations of 1915-1916 were a security measure in response to a massive Armenian rebellion attempt to forge a homogenous state in Eastern Anatolia through an ethnic and religious cleansing of the majority Muslim population.
the Armenian genocide is not up for debate, or your opinion. it is a matter of historical fact.

I'm really not sure what you think you will accomplish with this nonsense? Do you really think the information and documentation about the genocide, which is WIDELY available - about the BUTCHER of nearly 2 MILLION Armenian Christians by savage Turks will automatically become null and void because of your post? Is the Holocaust also implausible?

maybe Turkey hasn't heard, but their Ottoman empire days are long since gone. they can't even get into the EU. they occupy Northern Cyprus and support filthy terrorists like hamas. no one wants anything to do with Islamic extremists. And that's exactly what Turkey is becoming. good luck with that.

http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/gen...n_genocide.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopi...ngenocide.html

http://www.history.com/topics/armenian-genocide

http://www.armenian-genocide.org/genocide.html

http://www.genocide-museum.am/eng/ph...n_genocide.php
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Montréal & New York area
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Just because some 22 nations with obsessive Armenian lobbies say it was genocide doesn't make it true. Most Western historians, scholars, and academics who specialize in Ottoman history, including the most reputable ones, reject the "genocide" label. Regardless of what you think of him, Erdogan in 2005 called for a joint commission of third-party historians to investigate the 1915 events and even offered to pay reparations to Armenians if it were determined to be genocide, and while several international bodies like the EU responded favorably to this gesture, the Armenians declined.

This is because it would require the Armenians to make their historical archives available to independent parties, and the evidence would likely further prove the relocations of 1915-1916 were a security measure in response to a massive Armenian rebellion attempt to forge a homogenous state in Eastern Anatolia through an ethnic and religious cleansing of the majority Muslim population.
Actually vast majority of scholars and historians says that the Armenian Genocide, or massacre, or whatever you would like to call it took place. Indeed, there are plenty of evidence, images, journalists, and eye witnesses back then who reported about it. Same evidence as the holocaust basically. Of course Turkish Muslims denies it, but the Kurds recognized. Indeed Turkey has apologized, but not officially recognized. United Nation and many world organizations recognizes the genocide.

You need to learn some history lessons my friend.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:02 PM
 
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the Armenian genocide is not up for debate, or your opinion. it is a matter of historical fact.

I'm really not sure what you think you will accomplish with this nonsense? Do you really think the information and documentation about the genocide, which is WIDELY available - about the BUTCHER of nearly 2 MILLION Armenian Christians by savage Turks will automatically become null and void because of your post? Is the Holocaust also implausible?

maybe Turkey hasn't heard, but their Ottoman empire days are long since gone. they can't even get into the EU. they occupy Northern Cyprus and support filthy terrorists like hamas. no one wants anything to do with Islamic extremists. And that's exactly what Turkey is becoming. good luck with that.

Armenian Genocide | United Human Rights Council

Armenian Genocide of 1915: An Overview - New York Times

Armenian Genocide - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com

Armenian Genocide

Genocide Museum | The Armenian Genocide Museum-institute
I guess we now know why RecentlyMoved keeps starting anti-Turkish threads.

Now it's 2 million? There are Armenian sources stating there weren't even 2 million Armenians living in the Ottoman Empire at the time.

No one is more qualified to discuss Middle Eastern history than Bernard Lewis. He gives his rebuttal to comparisons between the events of 1915-1916 and the Jewish Holocaust.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70...hNNBkkPNS4K7wQ
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Montréal & New York area
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^^ Approximately 1.5 million Armenians, Assyrians and Pontac Greeks were killed during WWI.

Discussing about a historical event does not make one hate that country. It's good to teach and learn so that it won't be repeated.
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Old 11-16-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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good grief. a youtube video will surely put into question documented historical facts.

as for my anti Turkey posts - it's called news. maybe someone should tell them to start acting like civilized humans
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