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Old 11-19-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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I want to truly preserve and maintain our public institutions. It's all we got

Our universities
Our medical and scientific research
Our public transportation "trains and busses"
Subsidies for hybrid cars and bicyclists
Medicare and Social Security
Better healthcare
Special education and rehabilitation services
Childcare for 2 parents working households

Veteran benefits

I want this stuff for my kids. I will pay an extra $1,500/year in taxes to bring this on. I think we all can do more for our nation and then we don't have to cut good services out that all the top happiest nations on the planet all have, and each one of them have balanced budgets. You want more out of this country you have to feed it first
I've done business with the Federal government. If you could see first-hand how badly they squander the money we send them already, you would be loathe to send them more.

Need an instance? I was attending a meeting with my client that was taking place at the end of September, the end of the fiscal year. As I walked into the building, there was a Best Buy truck unloading dozens of big screen televisions. Seriously. They were lining the halls with the things. Why? Because that department had not spent all their allotted budget, so they just blew their excess cash. We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars. They didn't need the TVs. They just couldn't figure out another way to spend that money in a hurry.

As far as my contract was concerned, I came in under budget and on schedule with my deliverables, and the agency exceeded all performance expectations as a result of my work. Yet when it came to the following year, I didn't get a contract renewal. Not because the people I worked with didn't like me. In fact, they pushed hard to keep my firm around. But some functionary in DC had a buddy who had a minority contractor status. As it turned out, the new contractor came in $200,000 over budget and three months late and the quality of the work was terrible. But the proper boxes had been check on the purchasing requirements.

It is sickening to watch how much money gets wasted in every Federal agency. Yet you want to simply hand them more.
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Old 11-19-2014, 12:02 PM
 
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I've done business with the Federal government. If you could see first-hand how badly they squander the money we send them already, you would be loathe to send them more.

Need an instance? I was attending a meeting with my client that was taking place at the end of September, the end of the fiscal year. As I walked into the building, there was a Best Buy truck unloading dozens of big screen televisions. Seriously. They were lining the halls with the things. Why? Because that department had not spent all their allotted budget, so they just blew their excess cash. We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars. They didn't need the TVs. They just couldn't figure out another way to spend that money in a hurry.

As far as my contract was concerned, I came in under budget and on schedule with my deliverables, and the agency exceeded all performance expectations as a result of my work. Yet when it came to the following year, I didn't get a contract renewal. Not because the people I worked with didn't like me. In fact, they pushed hard to keep my firm around. But some functionary in DC had a buddy who had a minority contractor status. As it turned out, the new contractor came in $200,000 over budget and three months late and the quality of the work was terrible. But the proper boxes had been check on the purchasing requirements.

It is sickening to watch how much money gets wasted in every Federal agency. Yet you want to simply hand them more.
√ The Gruber's got their bone so they will stay silent as government robs the rest of us.
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Old 11-19-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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You're the same guy that asks if he can just cancel a credit card with $50K owed on it, throw the card away and ask if you're no longer responsible for it....

How do you close a credit card that has $50,000 balance owed?
Maybe he wants to charge his $1500 increase and taxes and throw the card away so his obligation just disappears????
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Old 11-22-2014, 04:46 AM
 
Location: it depends
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I've done business with the Federal government. If you could see first-hand how badly they squander the money we send them already, you would be loathe to send them more.

Need an instance? I was attending a meeting with my client that was taking place at the end of September, the end of the fiscal year. As I walked into the building, there was a Best Buy truck unloading dozens of big screen televisions. Seriously. They were lining the halls with the things. Why? Because that department had not spent all their allotted budget, so they just blew their excess cash. We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars. They didn't need the TVs. They just couldn't figure out another way to spend that money in a hurry.

As far as my contract was concerned, I came in under budget and on schedule with my deliverables, and the agency exceeded all performance expectations as a result of my work. Yet when it came to the following year, I didn't get a contract renewal. Not because the people I worked with didn't like me. In fact, they pushed hard to keep my firm around. But some functionary in DC had a buddy who had a minority contractor status. As it turned out, the new contractor came in $200,000 over budget and three months late and the quality of the work was terrible. But the proper boxes had been check on the purchasing requirements.

It is sickening to watch how much money gets wasted in every Federal agency. Yet you want to simply hand them more.
In the failure of regulation that was Madoff, and the failure of regulation that was Deep Horizon, in both instances investigators found that government employees who should have done things differently were instead spending their time watching porn on those computers we bought for them.
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Old 11-22-2014, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I've done business with the Federal government. If you could see first-hand how badly they squander the money we send them already, you would be loathe to send them more.

Need an instance? I was attending a meeting with my client that was taking place at the end of September, the end of the fiscal year. As I walked into the building, there was a Best Buy truck unloading dozens of big screen televisions. Seriously. They were lining the halls with the things. Why? Because that department had not spent all their allotted budget, so they just blew their excess cash. We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars. They didn't need the TVs. They just couldn't figure out another way to spend that money in a hurry.

As far as my contract was concerned, I came in under budget and on schedule with my deliverables, and the agency exceeded all performance expectations as a result of my work. Yet when it came to the following year, I didn't get a contract renewal. Not because the people I worked with didn't like me. In fact, they pushed hard to keep my firm around. But some functionary in DC had a buddy who had a minority contractor status. As it turned out, the new contractor came in $200,000 over budget and three months late and the quality of the work was terrible. But the proper boxes had been check on the purchasing requirements.

It is sickening to watch how much money gets wasted in every Federal agency. Yet you want to simply hand them more.
This. My wife works as a contractor within USAID and the mess is appalling.
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Old 11-22-2014, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Somehow the Department of Defense will get hold of it like they do most of our dollars. Dick Cheney proposed cutting food stamps to support the military. Next it will be healthcare, public transportation, etc.
So the department of defense gets most of our tax money? I had no idea, thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 11-22-2014, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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"I will pay an extra $1,500/year in taxes to bring this on."

I prefer collecting it from Al Sharpton first.
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Old 11-22-2014, 05:36 AM
 
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haha, dick cheney got a shoutout on person of interest and a city-data thread in the same week

awesome

makes me wonder if all the women he raped back in the day are planning something
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Riding the light...
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I want to truly preserve and maintain our public institutions. It's all we got

Our universities
Our medical and scientific research
Our public transportation "trains and busses"
Subsidies for hybrid cars and bicyclists
Medicare and Social Security
Better healthcare
Special education and rehabilitation services
Childcare for 2 parents working households

Veteran benefits

I want this stuff for my kids. I will pay an extra $1,500/year in taxes to bring this on. I think we all can do more for our nation and then we don't have to cut good services out that all the top happiest nations on the planet all have, and each one of them have balanced budgets. You want more out of this country you have to feed it first
I'll invoice for my share. We can be best friends as long as you pay.
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