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None of that matters. Really. If you actually read the resolution (that a majority of Democrats in the senate [including Hillary Clinton] voted for) which gave Bush the authority to invade Iraq, you'll find that Iraqi troops were violating the cease-fire on an almost daily basis. That alone was enough to justify the removal of Hussein.
Most of those with BDS on here have NEVER read the resolution voted on by Congress.
Incorrect. You cannot back up that claim with facts. It was not proven one way or the other. We DO know that Saddam Hussein stated, after capture, that he wanted everyone to believe he did have a WMD program because he wanted to scare Iran, whom he wrongly perceived to be the greater threat. You people totally and completely ignore that, you don't even know how to respond. There is evidence that Iraq may have sent chemical weapons to Syria when it became evident we were about to invade. Iraqi generals and even David Kay, former head of the Iraq Survey Group, have suggested so. We do know Syria had/has chemical weapons because they've used them. Where did they come from?
Obama's current Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, confirmed the same thing:
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"The official, James R. Clapper Jr., a retired lieutenant general, said satellite imagery showing a heavy flow of traffic from Iraq into Syria, just before the American invasion in March, led him to believe that illicit weapons material ''unquestionably'' had been moved out of Iraq."
Syria got chemical weapons from the same place Iraq did?
Inside the Ring: Syria, Iraq and weapons of mass destruction
The U.S.-Russia agreement to dismantle Syria’s chemical weapons is reigniting a controversy over the 2003 covert operation by Russian special operations forces to remove Iraqi weapons — including chemical arms — and move them to Syria and Lebanon prior to the Iraq War.
John A. Shaw, a former Pentagon official who first disclosed the Iraqi-Russian collaboration to The Washington Times, said the agreement brokered by Moscow could resolve unanswered questions about the arms transfers.
“The Russians were the principal — if not the sole — supplier of chemical weapons to both Iraq and Syria,†said Mr. Shaw, a former deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security who tracked Iraqi weapons for the Pentagon.
Mr. Shaw noted that U.N. inspectors who surveyed the site of the Aug. 21 Syrian chemical weapons attack near Damascus found an intact rocket motor inscribed with Cyrillic writing, indicating the delivery system was Russian in origin.
Mr. Shaw said Syria’s stockpile of chemical weapons — about 1,000 tons of nerve and blister agents — is estimated to be 50 percent larger than it was in 2003.
“My people on the ground definitively tracked the Russian movement of Iraqi [chemical weapons] and high explosives to three locations in Syria and two in Lebanon in 2003,†Mr. Shaw told Inside the Ring.
Russian convoys of trucks that carried the arms were photographed by satellites and confirmed by the chief of Ukraine’s intelligence service, who provided the Pentagon with specifics on the special operations units involved and the material they removed, he said.
“Now we have the Russians ostensibly about to certify quantities of weaponry that until a few weeks ago no one admitted existed in Syria, much less that part of it had been moved from Iraq, or that all of it is Russian,†Mr. Shaw said.
News reports from the Middle East, including Syrian defectors, stated in recent days that Syrian forces had begun moving chemical arms stockpiles to Iraq and Lebanon.
“Do we have some more Russian speznaz troops in civilian garb moving them back, or do we have the even more interesting spectacle of Syrian troops ferrying nerve gas over the border into Iraq?†Mr. Shaw asked.
“But the real question is who [the weapons] are going to and their real destination,†he said. “We have made the poacher into the gamekeeper, so expect the usual avalanche of denials, distractions and dissimulation from the Russians.â€
A senior Russian government official, presidential aide Sergei Ivanov, told reporters in Moscow on Wednesday that the Soviet Union “never supplied warheads with sarin either to Syria or any other country of the world.â€
Edward Timperlake, a former deputy to Mr. Shaw at the Pentagon, supported Mr. Shaw’s claims.
I believe Russian special forces successfully moved poison gas shells out of Iraq, so what confidence should anyone have that the Russians can now be honest brokers in helping collect poison gas shells being used in Syria,†he said.
Mr. Shaw went public in 2004 with dramatic disclosures that Russian special forces moved Saddam Hussein’s high explosives and special weapons out of Iraq in the weeks before the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion.
“The Russians brought in, just before the war got started, a whole series of military units,†Mr. Shaw said at the time. “Their main job was to shred all evidence of any of the contractual arrangements they had with the Iraqis. The others were transportation units.â€
Documents shown to U.S. officials in 2004 revealed that among the weapons removed by the Russians were chemical agents used in making poison gas.
Mr. Shaw was removed from his position shortly after going public with the disclosures.
So, how many "atomic bombs" does this Göbbels-wannabe think Saddam could have made?
Saddam never had a "nuclear weapons complex."
Ah, so we come to the crux of the matter, which is more Iran propaganda.
14 "nuclear bombs." What kind of nuclear bombs?
And 14, out of yellow-cake? Not gonna happen.
Notice the use of "yellow-cake" as disinformation and fear-mongering. It's akin to "nuclear program," another nondescript term that means nothing.
Yep. It's now so long ago that the GWB apologists can count on people having forgotten the the biggest whoppers. Of course the yellowcake in sealed storage at Al Tuwaitha was never ever a secret, and it was left untouched before the war, partly because Iraq had absolutely nothing in the way of facilities that could enrich the uranium in yellow-cake to fuel-grade, let alone weapons-grade.
You can buy uranium ore online and if you a can find a way to powderize it, you can make yourself a batch of yellowcake in your garage with over-the-counter chemicals. It is only when you assume a massively ignorant audience that you can successfully conflate yellowcake and WMD.
Now for a bit of irony: For decades, Al Tuwaitha was only left unguarded in the time between the US invading the area and the time when the US Army got around to thinking of perhaps posting a guard.
US Marines triumphantly declared to an adoring US press corps that they had found a "secret facility" in Al Tuwaitha in early April 2003.
Marines find underground nuke complex Look at that cute little headline, with weapons-grade plutonium mentioned front and center. Completely untrue, but it sure looks good. Never retracted, of course.
Yet it wasn't until May that the US Army though that perhaps, y'know, guarding this facility might be a good idea. Of course by then, it had been looted by the locals. Great job!
Once again illustrating just how bogus the WMD pretense was. If there had been a serious desire to make this about WMD, Al Tuwaitha - the only place where we knew for a fact that there would be nuclear material - would have been a high-priority objective. But the Ministry for Oil Production was just a bit more important...
That there was unusable pre-1991 crap lying around? Yes. It's just that it didn't exactly fit with the narrative painted by the Bushbots, now did it?
When even Karl Rove can't find a way to spin this into a narrative that looks good for the GWB administration, perhaps amateurs should just leave it be.
Incorrect. You cannot back up that claim with facts. It was not proven one way or the other. We DO know that Saddam Hussein stated, after capture, that he wanted everyone to believe he did have a WMD program because he wanted to scare Iran, whom he wrongly perceived to be the greater threat. You people totally and completely ignore that, you don't even know how to respond. There is evidence that Iraq may have sent chemical weapons to Syria when it became evident we were about to invade. Iraqi generals and even David Kay, former head of the Iraq Survey Group, have suggested so. We do know Syria had/has chemical weapons because they've used them. Where did they come from?
Not incorrect.
Gates in his book Duty, stated as such, do I need to get you the ISBN and page number?
Rumsfeld in an interview stated as such, do you need a link?
Bush in an interview stated as such, do I need to get you a link?
So I have presented you three people who stated that Iraq had no active WMD program; where are your facts to prove all three of these individuals are wrong?
And you seriously have no idea where the Syrian chem weps came from?
By the way, "may" and "suggest" are not facts, nor has this "Iraq sent the chem weps to Syria" claim ever been substantiated by any evidence, to than your "may have" or "suggest".
If there was a law banning Iraq from possessing WMDs, then why did we sell (give) them to Iraq?
If I read correctly. The chemicals were made from equipment purchased from German companies. The artillery was 152 mm and the rockets 122 mm. These are not calibers used by the US Military. They are used by the former soviet states. The design of the delivery systems are comparable to western designs. In shirt we didn't sell them the weapons.
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