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Old 11-18-2014, 08:04 PM
 
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Without KXL, Canadian oil does not get to China. I suppose Canada could build the pipeline in their own country and maybe they ought to.
What's the benefit to us in that?

I can't comprehend why (even if the lie were true) we'd resist oil traversing our country and shipping from our port facilities. That's great employment, bringing in money from ELSEWHERE.

Some people resist prosperity like it was the plague, and then complain about being poor.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:05 PM
 
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Well fortunately the lobby backed Keystone Pipeline failed but they will try and try again to get it passed like whining spoiled brats.

So, for those all for the Keystone Pipeline.
When it gets passed, will you side with BIG GOVERNMENT or side with the Sovereign Rosebud Sioux Tribe and their rights to their land?

House approval of Keystone XL is an
I seriously doubt you actually care anything about sovereignty, and lots about money.

You're hoping for a bigger price?
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:06 PM
 
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Without KXL, Canadian oil does not get to China. I suppose Canada could build the pipeline in their own country and maybe they ought to.
Canada OKs oil pipeline to the Pacific Coast

That is an option -- ship the oil more dangerously to China where China can cause more pollution than refining it.

The Obreezey position is: that the oil should make Chinese companies more money rather than US oil refineries at the expense of the environment.

More pollution and less American jobs! Obama should reconsider his global warming message. Obama talks about insourcing while begging Canada to make China wealthier instead of us.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:07 PM
 
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What's the benefit to us in that?

I can't comprehend why (even if the lie were true) we'd resist oil traversing our country and shipping from our port facilities. That's great employment, bringing in money from ELSEWHERE.

Some people resist prosperity like it was the plague, and then complain about being poor.
Don't forget refined here too.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:08 PM
 
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Don't forget refined here too.
I didn't. I was prefacing those remarks about the lie being true - the lie being that it was merely going to ship crude somewhere.

Even that's an economic benefit, so, it makes no sense to oppose it.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:19 PM
 
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Without KXL, Canadian oil does not get to China. I suppose Canada could build the pipeline in their own country and maybe they ought to.
They already are. A pipeline to the Pacific has been approved by the Canadian gov't. and they are seeking approval for an Atlantic pipeline .

Canada OKs oil pipeline to the Pacific Coast
UPDATE 1-TransCanada seeks approval for Energy East pipeline | Reuters
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Ya 50 permanent jobs is a real economic booster for this country. There is good arguments for the pipeline but being a job creator isn't one of them
Come on now, I think you're smarter than that. It's over 1000 miles of pipeline, with multiple pumping stations. And it runs 24/7. Do you really believe that 50 people will be enough to operate, maintain and secure over 1000 miles of pipeline? Let alone the workers at refineries and shipping terminals at the southern end. Like I said, I think you're smarter than that. If not....well, I have $16 million in a Nigerian bank, I'll split it with you if you just give me your bank account info.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:22 PM
 
Location: CO
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Wrong. It will create HUNDREDS of permanent employment positions, if not thousands.
Wrong. You could always just read the final impact statement for yourself.
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Once the proposed Project enters service, operations
would require approximately 50 total employees in the
United States: 35 permanent employees and 15
temporary contractors.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:25 PM
 
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Wrong. You could always just read the final impact statement for yourself.
Wrong.

Stop believing political propaganda.

Seriously, "lack of transparency is a political advantage" should be statement enough for you to NEVER believe what the government tells you.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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I predict, given the security implications of trains and pipelines in this "home grown" terrorism world of today, that there will be more than 50 security guards driving along that line in pick-up trucks alone, never mind the guys maintaining the line and it's pumping stations. .
Why? None of the other pipelines have this level of security.
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