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Old 11-21-2014, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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aaaaand here we go again -

another thread that turned into Israel HATE and general stupidity, right? I don't know about you, Pruzhany, but I am so sick and tired of every thread on anything related to the middle east (literally, ANYTHING remotely in the whole region) turning into an "Israel is apartheid" propaganda
Nobody has expressed hate for Israel or the Jews, least of all me. I thank Pruzhany for his/her detailed analysis of the Jewish justification for confiscating all the West Bank and Jerusalem for Israel. It provides me with a better understanding of Jewish/Israeli motives. But it is a fact that the majority of the world community doesn't see it quite that way.

 
Old 11-21-2014, 11:18 AM
 
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God chose Moses to be the lawgiver to the Israelites.

An 'angel of light' (Satan) chose Mohammed to revealed his new anti-Christian religion to.

Moses and Joshua were commanded by God to kill the pagan tribes when they entered Canaan, which they didn't completely do, and later became idol worshippers. ISIS takes the rape and killing of children to new level. Even non-ISIS Muslims feel that they can rape Christian women, and force them to marry them.

The Jewish and Christian writers of the Bible were very learned. For example, Paul was schooled by one of the best Jewish teachers, Gamaliel.

Being a 'Jew' is simply being of the linage of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Abraham was from the city of Ur in the land of the Chaldeans.
Ahhh...so Moses and Joshua were murdering rapists and kidnappers because God commanded them to be, huh?

Funny how that excuse doesn't work for Mohammed, does it?

And Paul was a thug and persecutor (and probably a murderer) of early Christians.

Dude..stop while you're behind. You're embarrassing yourself.
 
Old 11-21-2014, 01:39 PM
 
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Egyptians don't know what to hate anymore. They are on their fifth leadership change in three years.
In the last 5 years, Israel had a rapist president who resigned and a Prime Minister in prison for corruption comparing with Egypt, Israel has the worst score in the ME and the worst all the 'democracies' of the world.

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Old 11-21-2014, 02:32 PM
 
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Ahhh...so Moses and Joshua were murdering rapists and kidnappers because God commanded them to be, huh?

Funny how that excuse doesn't work for Mohammed, does it?

And Paul was a thug and persecutor (and probably a murderer) of early Christians.

Dude..stop while you're behind. You're embarrassing yourself.
They weren't 'rapists' - that's a modern-day Muslim thing.

Paul persecuted Christians until God changed him, and he became the greatest of the evangelists.

Dude, you have it completely backwards - you are already fully 'embarrassed'.
 
Old 11-21-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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They weren't 'rapists' - that's a modern-day Muslim thing.

Paul persecuted Christians until God changed him, and he became the greatest of the evangelists.

Dude, you have it completely backwards - you are already fully 'embarrassed'.
LOL he's probably out there adding to his already 25K posts telling everyone that he just doesn't care
 
Old 11-21-2014, 07:33 PM
 
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... But it is a fact that the majority of the world community doesn't see it quite that way.
But keep in mind that those who don't see it this way are not in the region. The ONLY one in the region who who has wanted to vote for it is the Palestinian Authority themselves. Yet look at all the other 21 states that make up the Arab League and not one of have voted for it to exist. So if none of the Arab nations are voting positively for it, then there has to be an alternate motive (or threat) for some European nations and some South American nations to vote for it. I can (personally seen) take the Arab League a step further. What they write to paper and the actually do is not the same. Arab countries on paper ban Israeli goods, but in realty when I've been is grocery stores on the Middle East there are Israeli goods. Their products from what I can tell sell pretty well, while i can see dust collecting on Arab items. You have to step back and read multiple Arabic websites and you can actually the difference between reality and the perceived reality seen in non-Arabic websites.
 
Old 11-21-2014, 07:46 PM
 
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But keep in mind that those who don't see it this way are not in the region. The ONLY one in the region who who has wanted to vote for it is the Palestinian Authority themselves. Yet look at all the other 21 states that make up the Arab League and not one of have voted for it to exist. So if none of the Arab nations are voting positively for it, then there has to be an alternate motive (or threat) for some European nations and some South American nations to vote for it. I can (personally seen) take the Arab League a step further. What they write to paper and the actually do is not the same. Arab countries on paper ban Israeli goods, but in realty when I've been is grocery stores on the Middle East there are Israeli goods. Their products from what I can tell sell pretty well, while i can see dust collecting on Arab items. You have to step back and read multiple Arabic websites and you can actually the difference between reality and the perceived reality seen in non-Arabic websites.
Not true, Israeli propaganda is not working anymore, Israel trying to have normal relations with arab countries, none of them would accept a normal relation with the apartheid state of Israel.
Egypt and Jordan have treaties not a regular relations but business is not good. Israelis have to change tags and hide the origin of their products and write the labels in Arabic in order to sell.

In Europe, the boycott is hurting Israeli economy ,this is according to Israelis.
So the Israeli propaganda is not working anymore, why would israel ask for economic normalization with all arab countries in exchange of withdraw from the occupied territories, if their product sell like hot cakes ?

If it was unimportant, why would Israel recall its Ambassador from Sweden, after the recognition of the Palestinian state ?
 
Old 11-21-2014, 10:03 PM
 
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They weren't 'rapists' - that's a modern-day Muslim thing.

Paul persecuted Christians until God changed him, and he became the greatest of the evangelists.

Dude, you have it completely backwards - you are already fully 'embarrassed'.
Oh...so they were only murderers and kidnappers. LMAO

But not rapists...right? Explain this then:

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(Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
Or explain this:

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(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
How about this:

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(Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)

They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Damn homie...you're coming up short.

http://www.evilbible.com/Rape.htm
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