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Yes. Then, what did President Reagan do to prevent the deportation of illegal minors of those parents that were granted amnesty under said Act? After all, said illegal minors (and spouses) were not covered by that Act.
He had the commissioner of the Immigration and Nationalization Service issue an order that would protect said children from deportation. President Reagan did not want to break up families. President Bush (the elder) followed with his own actions in 1990. Congress then got around to passing a new law that made such protections permanent (hence said EO's were rendered invalid).
Again, we don't really 'know' what President Obama is going to order tonight. However, he will probably base his EO on the 1990 act, which I had linked to herein.
He did that because the law didn't address it and he had the approval of congress. He didn't flip off congress, ignore federal law amd make up his own.
He did that because the law didn't address it and he had the approval of congress. He didn't flip off congress, ignore federal law amd make up his own.
I said nothing about amnesty, which is really not what my comments were about.- if the news reports today mirror what Mr Obama will say and do. Nor, did my comments have to do with a particular President, or particular war. Yes, I used quotes that referenced a couple of other Presidents, but they came from your link article and used to show ten of something does is not equivalent to ten of something else.
Frankly, I am surprised, given you are a moderator, at your response. I do understand you are not commenting as a mod. Nonetheless, your response is unbecoming for someone who is entrusted to be even handed.
Not knowing how many EOs this or any other President has issued, I became curious. Looked at wikipedia as a quick resource and was surprised, yet wondered. Just what are all of the EOs about, or doing. So, alluding only to numbers struck me as a quick and easy retort. Not a necessarily accurate response. Focus on the EO portion of my comments. The rest is my personal view of why I think this President's EOs are drawing so much fire. I could be wrong, or I could be right in that judgement.
You assume, way to much in my initial reply to you. Look again at my response, read the words. Do not interpret from your viewpoint. I think you will reach a different conclusion about what I said about EOs, also about how you responded.
I'd like to know exactly what you'd implying here.
I don't mod P&OC and even if I did, nothing I said in this thread has anything to do with being even handed.
People don't always agree on a given topic. Let me guess... you think that I'm a flaming liberal who would delete comments from conservatives.
That's amusing. I post a link to a list of all the executive orders in the history of the presidency (which isn't slanted toward any party), then I post a link that states that both parties have extended some sort of rights to illegal aliens and I'm being called out for not being even handed.
That's rich, man.
I'm registered unaffiliated. I don't wish to be associated entirely with any one political party because they all have things about them I don't like.
I hope that's the end of that.
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I can't wait for a conservative POTUS to make an executive order banning same sex marriage!
Which won't happen because it's a civil rights issue. Executive orders don't work that way.
Look over the executive orders of the more conservative presidents throughout history. You won't see any that take away established civil rights.
Because, thankfully, presidents know they're accountable to the public. Yanking away civil rights and/or modifying the constitution would be a huge presidential error and quickly would get checked by the other branches of government.
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I think the Democrats will be as appalled by Obama's amnesty Executive Order as the Republicans.
"The president’s plan will convulse national politics. Obama is planning to use his immigration-enforcement power in a way never before seen in U.S. politics. It may technically be legal, but it rips up accepted norms of presidential conduct.
It’s farcical to describe what the president is considering as an act of “prosecutorial discretion.” For all practical purposes, it’s legal nullification on a mass scale: not an interpretation or enlargement of congressional purpose, but a flagrant defiance of congressional purpose. “Congress wouldn’t change the law the way I wanted, so I had to void the law” is not an excuse or justification.
Presidents are expected faithfully to execute even the laws they don’t like. The shock to the political system will be intensified because the president’s political opponents almost unanimously believe that his act of nullification is motivated by the crassest kind of political calculation, a belief amply supported by the words of fellow Democrats from Clinton on down."
The Atlantic,
"Five Reasons Obama Shouldn't Declare Amnesty", DAVID FRUM NOV 17 2014, 5:03 PM
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If you think the Democrat party is going to leave it at that I have a bridge to sell you. After this Executive Order, we will hear how unfair it is that these people have no right to vote, and how can we allow them to be uninsured. Before you know it they will be granted citizenship because after all, "Its only FAIR!!!" The duplicity is nauseating.
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