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Unless Obama decides once again to exempt union folk.
I have heard this, in fact a friend told me that anyone under a collective bargaining agreement (i.e. union contract) is exempt. I googled around to find out about this and came up empty. This is the one reference I've found to exemption from the Cadillac tax.
Unions then carved out all sorts of exceptions to the tax. establishing a higher tax threshold for “law enforcement officers…employees in fire protection activities…individuals who provide out-of-hospital emergency medical care (including emergency medical technicians, paramedics, and first-responders), individuals whose primary work is longshore work…and indviduals engaged in the construction, mining, agriculture (not including food processing), forestry and fishing industries.”
So if this is accurate, cops, firefighters, EMTs, and a few other groups are exempt. But not most union or even most government workers are on the list. Teachers, most Teamsters, machinists, IBEW, etc. would not be on the exempt list.
Anyone know if this is accurate? The above article is from August 2013.
"What that means," Gruber says, "is the tax which starts by only taxing about the top 8 percent of health insurance plans essentially amounts over the next 20 years to basically getting rid of the exclusion for employer-provided health insurance" by making it financially impossible for employers to offer it."
Are you serious? You expect the left on this board to touch this thread? LOL.
It's a topic that they don't want to read about. Anything that challenges their preconceived notions about this administration is to be ignored, if it can't be destroyed or marginalized. This is far too big to be destroyed or marginalized, so they want nothing to do with it.
Are you serious? You expect the left on this board to touch this thread? LOL.
It's a topic that they don't want to read about. Anything that challenges their preconceived notions about this administration is to be ignored, if it can't be destroyed or marginalized. This is far too big to be destroyed or marginalized, so they want nothing to do with it.
The Bots will only talk about it when OFA issues a talking point email.
Per the article the 'high risk professions' are not exempt from the tax, they just have a slightly higher limit before it kicks in.
Ironically it appears this tax will hit public sector workers (other than cops, firefighters and EMT's) the hardest. That is, unless the tax is passed onto the normal taxpayer through other tax hikes (e.g. sales taxes, car taxes, etc).
I wonder what the NEA, AFSCME, etc are thinking right about now. This is going to screw them unless it is changed prior to 2018.
Per the article the 'high risk professions' are not exempt from the tax, they just have a slightly higher limit before it kicks in.
Ironically it appears this tax will hit public sector workers (other than cops, firefighters and EMT's) the hardest. That is, unless the tax is passed onto the normal taxpayer through other tax hikes (e.g. sales taxes, car taxes, etc).
I wonder what the NEA, AFSCME, etc are thinking right about now. This is going to screw them unless it is changed prior to 2018.
Of course the tax is going to be passed onto the taxpayer through other higher taxes, and those higher other taxes arent calculated in the CBO $1.3 trillion dollar price tag for the bill. Its yet another way to hide the true cost by passing the buck onto the states over time.
Of course the tax is going to be passed onto the taxpayer through other higher taxes, and those higher other taxes arent calculated in the CBO $1.3 trillion dollar price tag for the bill. Its yet another way to hide the true cost by passing the buck onto the states over time.
I'm sure this will happen to some extent. My guess would be that there will be some cutbacks in public sector plans too, especially in red states. A state like CA, where the public sector unions rule, would probably get tax hikes to cover the costs.
Good point about the cost shifting, too. And given the regressive nature of many state and local taxes (sales taxes, gas taxes, cig taxes all very regressive), this would be yet another instance of "liberals" taking from the poor to benefit the public sector class, most of whom are comfortable if not rich.
There is no defending this. The math and path to a 'universal' tax is to clear. Like a slow spreading, non problem causing cancer; until it is too late. A shell game at its best.
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