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Barrack Obama's illegal use of executive order to grant amnesty to illegal aliens is the begging of the end of the republic. This is not an exaggeration. It is not hyperbole of any kind. This is how democracies and republics often end with some variation on the theme- a duly elected individual with wide support transcends his authority, polarizes the nation into violently militaristic and antagonistic camps, and a cycle of continuously escalating outrages ensues.
America is most often compared to Rome. The beginning of the end of the Roman Republic was Marius, also a leftist with full support of the masses. Marius seized five illegal consulships following his first legitimate one. The cycle escalated when Sula declared himself dictator, ostensibly to normalize the country. Both side committed atrocities. Sula eventually stepped down, but the damage to the credibility of the government was done, and the rest of the brief history of the Republic revolved around a series of would be dictators... Clodius, Milo, Catalina, Crassus, Pompey...CAESAR...Antonius, until eventually, Augustus quietly killed the entire thing by drawing the powers of all of the offices into the principate.
Executive overreach is now our future. Whether you agree with Obama in principle is not the issue. Those on the left and the right, who will agree or disagree with various issues, will now increasingly be subjected to unilateral decisions by the president. Progressives- are you going to celebrate when the next republican president unilaterally ends Obamacare by declaring it unworkable and refusing to enforce the mandate/tax? Will you be dancing in the streets when he/she unilaterally passes tax cuts by refusing to allow the IRS to target tax cheats? Will you be satisfied when the pieces of the social safety net ceases to exist because a POTUS does not feel like executing their functions? Will it be a good day for you when the meager gun control legislation that had been passed is declared unworkable, unenforcable, and rolled back?
All of these things, and far worse, are now on their way.
Congratulations. Your alleged "constitutional scholar" has successfully negated 238 years of successful constitutional government. Lord help us all, the useful idiots have destroyed yet another republic.
I vehemently disagree with Obama's use of the EO but I do think you're exaggerating. The likely path is that states will sue (believe Texas has already stated it will), the EO will be considered in court, and they will slap it down for executive overreach. It's not the end of our government - just evidence of Obama's continued unwillingness to work with Republicans.
Anyone who voted for Obama or the Dems is partly to blame for this. I listened to cspan last night and the reaction calls from both dems, republicans and independents was overwhelmingly negative. Illegals are not welcome here no matter what the president tells us. I am of the opinion that this is a misuse of powers and it will likely go to court. It also may cause some protesting (including deaths) because a lot of people feel very strongly about this issue of giving preferential treatment to law breakers.
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Originally Posted by cachibatches
Barrack Obama's illegal use of executive order to grant amnesty to illegal aliens is the begging of the end of the republic. This is not an exaggeration. It is not hyperbole of any kind. This is how democracies and republics often end with some variation on the theme- a duly elected individual with wide support transcends his authority, polarizes the nation into violently militaristic and antagonistic camps, and a cycle of continuously escalating outrages ensues.
America is most often compared to Rome. The beginning of the end of the Roman Republic was Marius, also a leftist with full support of the masses. Marius seized five illegal consulships following his first legitimate one. The cycle escalated when Sula declared himself dictator, ostensibly to normalize the country. Both side committed atrocities. Sula eventually stepped down, but the damage to the credibility of the government was done, and the rest of the brief history of the Republic revolved around a series of would be dictators... Clodius, Milo, Catalina, Crassus, Pompey...CAESAR...Antonius, until eventually, Augustus quietly killed the entire thing by drawing the powers of all of the offices into the principate.
Executive overreach is now our future. Whether you agree with Obama in principle is not the issue. Those on the left and the right, who will agree or disagree with various issues, will now increasingly be subjected to unilateral decisions by the president. Progressives- are you going to celebrate when the next republican president unilaterally ends Obamacare by declaring it unworkable and refusing to enforce the mandate/tax? Will you be dancing in the streets when he/she unilaterally passes tax cuts by refusing to allow the IRS to target tax cheats? Will you be satisfied when the pieces of the social safety net ceases to exist because a POTUS does not feel like executing their functions? Will it be a good day for you when the meager gun control legislation that had been passed is declared unworkable, unenforcable, and rolled back?
All of these things, and far worse, are now on their way.
Congratulations. Your alleged "constitutional scholar" has successfully negated 238 years of successful constitutional government. Lord help us all, the useful idiots have destroyed yet another republic.
The END of America happened in 1965, when the Kennedy boys (John and his brothers) pushed through this piece of legislation.
The NWO has been in effect MUCH longer than the *******s that have been occurring since the last decade. They have an agenda to turn Anglo-Americans into lower-class dependent cockroaches (permanent serfdom) and nothing we lower-class peasants do will stop it.
The "unconstitutional" is getting old, went to the well with that one too many times and it's boring at this point.
That's sad.
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