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Old 11-21-2014, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Well, I believe someone here doesn't have any idea what the executive action was or what it is limited to. No wonder so much drama.
First of all, Obama's action is 100% legal. But, just because one has the power, does it mean a grant to indiscriminately use that power? Presidents should use their executive authority in times of emergency and emergency ONLY. But no such “emergency” requiring immediate presidential action was required here. Wouldn't you agree?
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Old 11-21-2014, 09:13 AM
 
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Nonsense. President Obama has the power under Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution to grant reprieves and pardons, which power is only limited to cases of impeachment. In this, the President's action was a judicious use of executive power in that amnesty was only extended on a temporary basis, and conditional pending legislative action by Congress on immigration reform. (Don't hold your breath waiting.)
Pardon means someone has been tried and convicted. Amnesty means setting aside the law.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:42 AM
 
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Pretty naive to believe it is only 2 years.
It could be more than 2 years, if the next president agrees. But the current permits are limited to two years.


So if a Republican wins, will they end this democrat powergrab? you may be right. . .its not likely, but it is limited to 2 years. Would require another president to push it further.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:44 AM
 
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First of all, Obama's action is 100% legal. But, just because one has the power, does it mean a grant to indiscriminately use that power? Presidents should use their executive authority in times of emergency and emergency ONLY. But no such “emergency” requiring immediate presidential action was required here. Wouldn't you agree?
not really. Authority is authority. You do not grant authority unless its to be used.


Plus - deporting anyone and breaking up families is a lot bigger emergency than anything else on the Presidents plate.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:45 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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We should just get rid of congress now that we have a king. It's just a waste of money now.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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not really. Authority is authority. You do not grant authority unless its to be used.


Plus - deporting anyone and breaking up families is a lot bigger emergency than anything else on the Presidents plate.
Well, didn't I just say his action is 100% LEGAL? Did anybody want to deport anybody's families right away? If so, I must have missed something big.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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We should just get rid of congress now that we have a king. It's just a waste of money now.
Great idea, especially considering that congress refuses to send a bill to the president's desk.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:50 AM
 
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The answer is to pass legislation denying the Obamaillegsls any form of welfare, including the child tax credit.

Half will go home. The half who stay will compete with Millenials for jobs, innoculating that generation against future Democrat grifters for life.
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Old 11-21-2014, 10:59 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Holy sh-t all these cry babies..... Congress took too long, so Obama said screw them i'll get this done myself...

This is a good thing, assuming they learn their lesson.
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Old 11-21-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I just looked outside expecting to see America gone, but everything looked the same as it did yesterday. So this whole America is gone must be a figurative thing.
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