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Old 11-24-2014, 01:51 PM
 
Location: SC
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The average American - or foreigner for that matter, spending a month or two traveling across the country would never know the difference when passing from one state to another, just as a person traveling from one county to another in-state wouldn't either.

Besides...

Who is really making the laws in the country anyway? Not the people, and not even the local governments...

Michelin: SC roads a disgrace.
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Old 11-24-2014, 02:13 PM
 
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and just be the United States Of America.

Seems the states really do is provide ways to split us apart. Both politically, and economically.

I am buying new healthcare now and reality for someone like me who travels a lot, all being a country of individual states does is cost me more as National Insurance Plans are very rare or much more expensive.

If I am in another state and become ill, I need to pay more because almost all doctors will be "out-of-network."

When I want to drive from South Carolina to Washington state, it is amazing the number of flips and twists I have to gyrate through in order to "properly" carry my gun.

If I want to travel to Texas for a vacation, I have thirty days to re-register my car there. You say that doesn't apply to vacationers? Tell it to the troopers who will tell you that if you are in the state for more than X days, you need to register. No, it is not true, but it is a PITA to deal with uninformed cops.

There are other examples, but really, I don't see any really benefit to having a mishmash of laws and regulations - other than making fiefdoms easier to manage.
Let me guess - you voted for Obama.

Well, then you have to deal with the reality of ObamaCare. And the Dems that refused to address the "cross state lines for insurance" issue.

And no, it's not time to do away with states. It's bad enough that our school kids have to deal with a disastrous department of education in DC making decisions for them, when in fact those decisions should be made at a local level with the folks that know the area best. I really don't want to see my state go the way of New York or California.
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Old 11-24-2014, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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The states were the "test lab" for democracy and ideas.

Obamacare takes ques directly from Massachusetts where Romney implemented a similar mandate.

Now, I would much rather have a single payer system, but the test bed of democracy is the states. States try different ideas to solve similar problems. When the problem becomes massive enough, then the federal government often takes the lead of the states with the best ideas.

Colorado, Washington, and now Oregon are taking the lead on marijuana legalization. The federal government is taking heed BTW, its just going to be after the next Presidential election to end prohibition. Mark my words.
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Old 11-24-2014, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Riding the light...
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Well, another public education gone to waste.
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Old 11-24-2014, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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Baloney Indeed. Sorry, we really aren't an amalgamation of countries, there is far more that we have in common. The differences are just variations of the basics.

Hitler said the same thing when he moved to take back "German" areas after WW1.
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Old 11-24-2014, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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The average American - or foreigner for that matter, spending a month or two traveling across the country would never know the difference when passing from one state to another, just as a person traveling from one county to another in-state wouldn't either.

Besides...

Who is really making the laws in the country anyway? Not the people, and not even the local governments...

Michelin: SC roads a disgrace.

If the same traveler went from Maine to Florida and stopped in between, they would experience many different cultures. You can even experince the shocking differences at a McDonalds.
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Old 11-24-2014, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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The states were the "test lab" for democracy and ideas.

Obamacare takes ques directly from Massachusetts where Romney implemented a similar mandate.

Now, I would much rather have a single payer system, but the test bed of democracy is the states. States try different ideas to solve similar problems. When the problem becomes massive enough, then the federal government often takes the lead of the states with the best ideas.

Colorado, Washington, and now Oregon are taking the lead on marijuana legalization. The federal government is taking heed BTW, its just going to be after the next Presidential election to end prohibition. Mark my words.

The solution should have been 50 separate "Massachussetts", not one solution expanded to 50 states. The states would be able to tweek to make it work based on their people and economy.
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Old 11-24-2014, 06:08 PM
 
Location: USA
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Most all countries have states or dedicated Regions. Without them it would be impossible to manage. You can't report directly to the CEO of a large company either.
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Old 11-24-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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NO.........it's the other way around, time to get rid of Fedgov and the union-of-states.
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Old 11-24-2014, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Riding the light...
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and just be the United States Of America.
Spoiler

Seems the states really do is provide ways to split us apart. Both politically, and economically.

I am buying new healthcare now and reality for someone like me who travels a lot, all being a country of individual states does is cost me more as National Insurance Plans are very rare or much more expensive.

If I am in another state and become ill, I need to pay more because almost all doctors will be "out-of-network."

When I want to drive from South Carolina to Washington state, it is amazing the number of flips and twists I have to gyrate through in order to "properly" carry my gun.

If I want to travel to Texas for a vacation, I have thirty days to re-register my car there. You say that doesn't apply to vacationers? Tell it to the troopers who will tell you that if you are in the state for more than X days, you need to register. No, it is not true, but it is a PITA to deal with uninformed cops.

There are other examples, but really, I don't see any really benefit to having a mishmash of laws and regulations - other than making fiefdoms easier to manage
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Yeah, and all you'll have left is Wash, DC and a few states from Pennsylvania, north and east to Maine. A fully socialist utopia. And heck, now that we've got polyester, nobody needs cotton. Well, except for Ralph Lauren. And I don't think Great Britain would be interested in returning to the colonial model. At least not for that rag tag band of misfits.
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