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I'm not a Jew, but I agree completely. I simply can't understand why they are so hated.
It's exponential bigotry on display, and the people who perpetuate their hatred seem oblivious to it.
...I might add that the other day a black man walking with his girl (wife?) in the grocery store said "get the fu*k outta the way white boy" when I kneeled down to grab a cold remedy.
I chose Jews because no other ethnic group has ever gone through the ethnic cleansing (such a tame phrase) that Hitler put the Jews through.
C'mon, how can anyone say 6 million killed in just a decade isn;t the worst in history?
Anyone who disagrees, please cite another ethnic group who suffered the same percentage.
Keep in mind that Hitler wiped out more than half the Jews. There is no comparison that I know of.
It is important to note, however, that these epidemics were just some of the causes of population decline during European contact. Intermarriage, slavery, wars, massacres, political disruption, economic changes, malnutrition, destruction of traditional subsistence patterns, and alcoholism also changed the composition of many Native American groups, whether they favored the changes or fought them. Eventually, these changes caused substantial depopulation and cultural change. This Native American depopulation occurred during the contact period, causing the Native American population size to decline from 1-18 million before European contact (c. AD 1500) to an estimated 530,000 by 1900. Native Americans and The Smallpox Epidemic
So, there was a minimum of a 50% population decline of the American Indians between European contact and 1900 AD. Although, if there were 18 million of them originally rather than 1 million, the population loss will have been considerably greater.
What do you got for the Jews?
(Regardless of who wins this contest, I highly doubt the losers will be jealous).
Last edited by Oldhag1; 11-30-2014 at 06:13 AM..
Reason: Off topic
While other groups have gone through genocide, no other group of people were singled out and massacred in such a mechanized and efficient way, in such a short time (we are talking about 6 years) as were the European Jews were at the hands of the Nazis.
Can I ask why this matters? Unless there's some form of agenda here where we can justify 'well X had it worse so you aren't allowed to complain' there seems to be no constructive reason for this topic. Many groups endure hardship, some worse than others and some longer than others. The 1930 and 40 were torturous for the Jews, but they seem to be doing fine now, at least in the Western World. Obviously Jews are being attacked in the Middle East, but if you look (not closely, just look with an objective eye) you'll notice no group is especially well off in that region.
My point is, Jews had it bad, but what does that mean now? The past is unchangeable. What benefit comes from arguing what group had it worse? We should look at hardship, understand if it's preventable, and stop allowing it from happening in the future. Had that been done just one time in history, the Holocaust would have been avoided entirely but no one sits down to do it. We'd rather bicker about who had it worse, as if that matters. None of you gain from winning an argument about that, so why argue? Even if that matter is resolved, no good comes of it.
It is important to note, however, that these epidemics were just some of the causes of population decline during European contact. Intermarriage, slavery, wars, massacres, political disruption, economic changes, malnutrition, destruction of traditional subsistence patterns, and alcoholism also changed the composition of many Native American groups, whether they favored the changes or fought them. Eventually, these changes caused substantial depopulation and cultural change. This Native American depopulation occurred during the contact period, causing the Native American population size to decline from 1-18 million before European contact (c. AD 1500) to an estimated 530,000 by 1900. Native Americans and The Smallpox Epidemic
So, there was a minimum of a 50% population decline of the American Indians between European contact and 1900 AD. Although, if there were 18 million of them originally rather than 1 million, the population loss will have been considerably greater.
What do you got for the Jews?
(Regardless of who wins this contest, I highly doubt the losers will be jealous).
For good reason...I've NEVER said anything anti Jewish in my life.
As for the too of your post, you're spot on.
The Jews are just one of many groups that have faced persecution over the millennia...and they themselves say in their own religious books that they eliminated a myriad of other tribes. That's just part of human history. I don't think they were persecuted anymore than most other targeted groups in proportion to their numbers.
Last edited by Oldhag1; 11-30-2014 at 06:14 AM..
Reason: Edited quote
In America....Native Americans. I don't want to down play the horrors of slavery, but the Native Americans were treated a lot worse. There was a genocide on Native Americans.
Internationally....the Jews. Nothing comes close to the awfulness as the Holocaust except for the treatment of native peoples in the Americas.
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