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Old 12-01-2014, 12:23 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by Opin_Yunated View Post
Two reasons:

1) to keep you ignorant of how the system works
2) to deflate the currency
End taxation. Do it.

My heirs and I will thank you.

 
Old 12-01-2014, 12:25 PM
 
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It's all accounting notation.

Federal Deficit = Spending - Taxation
True.. lets continue
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Federal Deficit = Money Created - Money Destroyed
No its not.. Federal deficit = money borrowed to fund the deficit of money spent - money received
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Simple.
Simply wrong..
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National Debt + Net Exports = Private Sector Wealth

National debt is the accumulation of all Federal spending (money creation) over time.
The federal government spends about $3T a year.. according to your new accounting garbage.. This would mean Obama would be responsible for $18T of the $18T in debt..

Do you really want to go with this crap?
 
Old 12-01-2014, 12:25 PM
 
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End taxation. Do it.

My heirs and I will thank you.
Taxation is bad for economic growth but it redistributes wealth and prevents the very situation you are salivating over.
 
Old 12-01-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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Agreed, but arguably healthcare is not a luxury good/service nor a want, it is an essential like fire department,
Most definitely, health care is a good/service provided by the labors of someone else, therefore, you have no inherent right to it. Someone else MUST ACT for you to receive health care, period.
 
Old 12-01-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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Taxation is bad for economic growth but it redistributes wealth and prevents the very situation you are salivating over.
You continue to be wrong..

We dont tax wealth
 
Old 12-01-2014, 12:33 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Taxation is bad for economic growth but it redistributes wealth and prevents the very situation you are salivating over.
I'm salivating over the end of taxation you promised because by your own admission, it's not necessary. Do it... end taxation. Put an end to some of us being tax slaves to others.
 
Old 12-01-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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We ALL should pay for it. Removing a profit making middle man.
What percentage of new medicines and new medical devices were created by overseas governments?

Profit drives ingenuity and investment. If there is no money to be made, a lot less new stuff is made.

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Then why do we even have to pay taxes?
Isn't funny how people like him go on about fiat money and the fact that debt is good and there is truly no debt while telling us that the rich need to pay more taxes? Why do we even have taxes? Why doesn't each government in the world just hit that computer button and spend trillions on road, trillions on schools, trillions on medical supplies, etc etc?

Well, the answer is that they know how full of malarky they are.
 
Old 12-01-2014, 12:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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While starving poor people are struggling pay check to pay check to get by, these rich people are hoarding 75% of their income into Fidelity accounts and IRAs and 401k

Can't they foot a little bit of that savings to pay for universal healthcare so the people struggling paycheck to paycheck on welfare and credit card debt can get healthcare?
I'm willing to pick up the tab for their birth control.
 
Old 12-01-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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Why do you love rich people so much? They are no different than any of the other 300 million citizens.



Taxes don't pay for services. If you can't agree on the facts, you won't get anywhere in establishing a credible argument.
Exactly. So why do folks want to steal their money, and nobody else's?
 
Old 12-01-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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What percentage of new medicines and new medical devices were created by overseas governments?

Profit drives ingenuity and investment. If there is no money to be made, a lot less new stuff is made.
Please, feel free to tell me what new medical device my insurance company created.
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