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And just what were these political hacks doing with the record gas tax revenues when prices were high? Don't try to raise my taxes when you squandered revenues and spent on unrelated projects instead of investing in road repairs, etc. Not on my watch!
At the end of the day, we're still getting much more from gas taxes (given the price of gas) in revenue than anyone could have expected when the current gas tax laws were imposed. Stop these crooks!
You people just don't think any further then, people shouldn't have this or that...Lets say for example if people were not allowed to have a private automobile, what would be done with all of those said automobiles? Try being a realist for once, instead of a brain dead liberal.
Wake up and look around you. Many people are abandoning auto ownership and using public transportation and short term rental organizations like zipcar. The suburbs in many cities languish while the center urban area thrives. The 60s car culture is dying. That's reality, Francis.
What's really brain dead dumb is that a bus ride costs $1.70 per passenger mile here (WA) while a private car is 37 cents per passenger mile. And the car is more convenient, faster, and more pleasant. Until someone can figure out how to rein in the costs of public transit, I can't support it.
Wake up and look around you. Many people are abandoning auto ownership and using public transportation and short term rental organizations like zipcar. The suburbs in many cities languish while the center urban area thrives. The 60s car culture is dying. That's reality, Francis.
It might be reality in YOUR city, but not many other cities.
If you look at Houston, for example, you'll see that more and more large corporations are building campuses away from the city and in the suburbs where people live.
The idea that everybody needs to work in close proximity so that couriers can rush a document over the moment the secretary types it up on her IBM Selectric II are over.
It might be reality in YOUR city, but not many other cities.
If you look at Houston, for example, you'll see that more and more large corporations are building campuses away from the city and in the suburbs where people live.
The idea that everybody needs to work in close proximity so that couriers can rush a document over the moment the secretary types it up on her IBM Selectric II are over.
Houston has no center city. There is no place for the kind of urban migration that many other cities are experiencing to occur. Houston is an example of how to do it wrong.
Are you just saying they are or do you have numbers that contradict them?
Seattle charges $2.50 on peak for a bus trip anywhere in the city. From the edge of the city to the center is about 10 miles. That gives us 25 cents per mile, not $1.20. Federal mileage rates, which reflect the operating cost of a car is 56 cents per mile. If you are commuting that doesn't include the cost of parking, which is about $8/day here.
10 mile commute in car
2 time 10 miles time $0.56/mi = $11.20
Parking =$8.00
Total = $19.20
Bus
2 times $2.50 = $5.00
Even a GED can do math this simple. Is that enough?
Seattle charges $2.50 on peak for a bus trip anywhere in the city. From the edge of the city to the center is about 10 miles. That gives us 25 cents per mile, not $1.20.
The cost to the rider is irrelevant, what is the cost of operations per rider.
My old man can use the bus for free, he took it once.... Too much time involved.
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Even a GED can do math this simple. Is that enough?
The first thing you need to do here DCforever is subtract what it cost the motorist to subsidize buses. The second thing you need to do is add what was given to mas transit.
Highways
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Users of the highway passenger transporta
tion system paid significantly greater
amounts of money to the fe
deral government than th
eir allocated costs in 1994-
2000.
Passenger Rail
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The net federal subsidy to passenger railroads was the third largest, except for the
years 1998-2000 (Figure 1), when it was
second. The Taxpayer Relief Act of
1997 provided Amtrak with a tax credit in
the amount of $2.18 billion in current
dollars that caused the net federal subsi
dy to increase dramatically in 1998 and
1999.
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Passenger rail received the largest subsidy per thousand passenger-miles,
averaging $186.35 per thousand passenge
r-miles during 1990-2002 (Figure 2).
Transit
•Between 1990 and 2002, transit received
the largest amount of net federal
subsidy, increasing from $5.09 billion to
$7.31 billion (Figure 1), an increase of
3% per year. Next to passenger rail, tr
ansit received the next highest net federal
subsidy per thousand passenger-miles fo
r the period, averaging $118.26 in year
2000 chained dollars (Figure 2)
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