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Colleges and universities are focused on maximizing revenue so they can pay fat salaries to professors and university administrators. Sorry millennials but you were duped. Your education was watered down political indoctrination and isn't worth squat.
Professors have PHD's and they really aren't paid that much. Do you know how many years and how much money it takes to get a PHD. I applaud anyone who is that dedicated and focused to get their PHD because it is not easy.
Professors have PHD's and they really aren't paid that much. Do you know how many years and how much money it takes to get a PHD. I applaud anyone who is that dedicated and focused to get their PHD because it is not easy.
That's the "starving college professor" meme they like to play. The reality is quite different. Here’s what the average full-time professor made last year - The Washington Post "Full professors at public doctoral institutions made $126,981 in salary in the 2013-2014 academic year, and instructors at those schools made $50,032."
Is that huge? No, not compared to what some CEOs make, but compared to what PhDs make in private business, it's roughly equivalent.
Lots of PhD students are supported by various grants, TAs, etc. It's generally 5-6 years from the bachelor's to a PhD, and keep in mind the above, many are getting paid. I'm not dismissing it, I'm just saying, don't believe all the poverty stuff you hear from some of these people.
Just because your are "educated" does not mean you are more "smart". Employers don't pay for what you know. They pay you for what you do. Starbucks does not care that their "barista" has a PHD in Ethnic Studies and the customers are not going to give a bigger tip.
True, but those extra classes you took in "dead languages" does not benefit an employer who only wants you to "know" how to do "X". That english degree may look good hanging on your wall, but most of us learned enough english by grade 12 of high school to do any job.
More education doesn't make you wise, it only makes you more educated. Common sense is gained through life experiences.
The biggest difference I see in Millennials and my generation is that the Millennials seem to have a sense of entitlement that mine did not and does not have. They are in fact a quicker study in my opinion. They are also much more accepting of diversity and the right for people to be unique. I like Millennials over all. I simply disagree with some of their ideas.
For example Millennials will ask "why do I have to do it?" when given a task. My generation just did it. We understood that low man gets the dirty jobs, that the senior people have already done countless times.
Millennials are in love with their cellphones. They can't bear to be separated from them. Where I work Cellphones are banned from the production floor. Camera policy... At least once a day I am confronting a Millennial for cellphone on the floor or in team meeting. Texting during a meeting is incredibly rude.
I like teaching Millennials because as I have said, they are a quick study and are actually a lot of fun to be around.
True, but those extra classes you took in "dead languages" does not benefit an employer who only wants you to "know" how to do "X". That english degree may look good hanging on your wall, but most of us learned enough english by grade 12 of high school to do any job.
The need of education depends on what you are doing. An English degree is valuable if you are an English teacher.
A lot of people with PhDs are simply people who are not all that bright but were in circumstances they could stay in school a long time. The reason many don't make a hell of a lot.
PackardFan"I'm not sure here but; wasn't a HS degree before WW2 about as good as a college degree in 2014? Word was finishing HS in the 1930's was a big deal and many employers would take a grad."
Absolutely. Those days, we were a nation with tens of millions of brain-dead is ok jobs. The first office I worked at had a plant where most employees lacked a high school diploma, and were above the median state income. Now we in the office also realized that was not going to last. But from the 50s when the world was still recovering from the ruins of WWII to the early 80s, it persisted, with reduced headcounts each year the last decade.
The need of education depends on what you are doing. An English degree is valuable if you are an English teacher.
A lot of people with PhDs are simply people who are not all that bright but were in circumstances they could stay in school a long time. The reason many don't make a hell of a lot.
I've never met a "not too bright" PhD. I've met some "not too bright" master's engineers and nurses, and some "not too bright" lawyers.
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PackardFan"I'm not sure here but; wasn't a HS degree before WW2 about as good as a college degree in 2014? Word was finishing HS in the 1930's was a big deal and many employers would take a grad."
Absolutely. Those days, we were a nation with tens of millions of brain-dead is ok jobs. The first office I worked at had a plant where most employees lacked a high school diploma, and were above the median state income. Now we in the office also realized that was not going to last. But from the 50s when the world was still recovering from the ruins of WWII to the early 80s, it persisted, with reduced headcounts each year the last decade.
I don't know about before WW II, but certainly afterward a college degree was helpful. My dad got his degree during WW II, served, then came back to work in engineering. Some of the older "engineers" he worked with did not go to college, and IIRC, one did not even graduate high school, but Dad had a BS and and MS and he was the boss.
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