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Old 12-06-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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So job growth was better under Clinton and GDP growth was better under Bush.
Not surprising considering the amount of jobs lost due to the 2007 economic crash and the tens of trillions lost in private assets.

 
Old 12-06-2014, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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How long is it going to take until a conservative finds something in the report to nitpick about? Wait for it...1...2...3?
Not a conservative, but a liberal. And a business reporter at that!

Hold on: Jobs report wasn't so great after all
 
Old 12-06-2014, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Your number is of the size of the labor force, not its participation rate of that force , there for that is the total number of people over 16 and under 65, regardless of if they want a job or not.

that means the 319,000 people you are talking about either died or turned 65.

Unless you polled those people, you have no idea why they no longer have a job, but nice speculation. for all you know that entire population is of Baby boomers

I also dont see where you are getting any of those sets of numbers from do you mind actually showing where they claim from ????
You don't see where he is getting those numbers from? They are from the BLS LNU02000000, LNU02500000, LNU02600000, and it's the BLS which claims to be polling people to see if they have jobs.

I know the BLS web site can be confusing. Here is where you can plug in those query codes: Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
 
Old 12-06-2014, 04:15 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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You don't see where he is getting those numbers from? They are from the BLS LNU02000000, LNU02500000, LNU02600000, and it's the BLS which claims to be polling people to see if they have jobs.

I know the BLS web site can be confusing. Here is where you can plug in those query codes: Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
In his original post, he had a link, in it those numbers werent there. When asked to actually provide a link to those numbers he refused.
 
Old 12-06-2014, 07:42 PM
 
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In his original post, he had a link, in it those numbers werent there. When asked to actually provide a link to those numbers he refused.
Well, you can lead a horse to water but you can't stop it from drowning itself after crapping all over itself after making itself look like a complete moron.
 
Old 12-06-2014, 08:02 PM
 
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really, you are telling me that if I terminate someone(for what ever reason) who has 8 years of service and raises, that i am going to hire a new person on at that same rate ?????????

That doesnt even happen in a Good economy.
if you fire someone with 8 years of service and want to hire someone equally qualified, you need to pay them.
 
Old 12-06-2014, 08:03 PM
 
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Nice deflecting.

Clinton, yes.

Bush? He had a few good years. You can thank government expansion and the mother of all housing bubbles for that. But job growth was anemic even in the best of years, and then the bubble burst.

There were more positive job gains this year than the entire Bush presidency.
YOU are the deflecting.

The numbers you showed indicated it was BETTER in 2003..

We're discussing a short period of time.. YOU posted the stats.. now you don tlike them.
 
Old 12-06-2014, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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321,000 people hired. BUT
92,450,000 are still not working. This is the lowest labor participation rate since 1978
11,900,000 have dropped out of the labor force since 2009 They are not counted as being 'unemployed'
 
Old 12-06-2014, 08:13 PM
 
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How long is it going to take until a conservative finds something in the report to nitpick about? Wait for it...1...2...3?
Low wage jobs.....

Good ones are still few and far between...

Take a trip to your local Lowe's or Menard's or Home Depot.....

See those smoking hot women working there?

Don't you think they should/could get a 40k+ office job elsewhere?

What about the former six figure HR director working in the back making freaking keys?

Do you think he wants to be there?

Prowly not....it's all that is available.

It's why you see 8,000 lawn care businesses in your location too.
 
Old 12-07-2014, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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actually the BLS defines working age for the LPR as anyone over 16.....with NO ending age

BLS Glossary









Labor Force Characteristics (CPS)









currently there are about 8000-10000 people in America turning 65 DAILY(an average age of retirement )(and many boomers are putting retirement off till their 70's)

currently there are about 13,000 people in America turning 18 DAILY (bls uses 16, but many youths don't find employment till after college at 21...so 18 is used for an average)

the LPR should actually be growing since you have MORE people coming of age for employment, than you have people coming of age for retirement
Use the statistics you just stated and the LFPR goes down. Do the math.
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