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Old 12-09-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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You are attempting to compare apples and oranges.

If 2 in a hundred children are not vaccinated, this does not equate to a 2% increase in disease incidence. We are comparing the incidence of the disease itself to before and after the vaccinations started dropping.
I think you are jumping to conclusions by attributing a 6000% increase in VPD to a slight decrease in childhood vaccination rates. I think that there are many other possibilities for this increase that having nothing at all to do with vaccinations. There is no proof that it is due to less people vaccinating.

 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:23 AM
 
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We are a developed country and too many want to regress to third world medicine.
What is your proposed solution? Forced vaccinations?
 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:27 AM
 
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I think you are jumping to conclusions by attributing a 6000% increase in VPD to a slight decrease in childhood vaccination rates. I think that there are many other possibilities for this increase that having nothing at all to do with vaccinations. There is no proof that it is due to less people vaccinating.
There certainly is ample proof that vaccinating decreased diseases!

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Old 12-09-2014, 10:28 AM
 
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What is your proposed solution? Forced vaccinations?
Are you against vaccinations?
 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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There certainly is ample proof that vaccinating decreased diseases!

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There's also ample evidence that many of the VPD were already on the decline when certain vaccines were introduced.
 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:32 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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Between 2008 and 2014, vaccine preventable disease in the US grew 6,000% while it dropped more than 50% in the rest of the world. Why could that be?

The Impact of Not Getting Vaccinated, in One Terrifying Video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mka1...ature=youtu.be
A video produced by the Council on Foreign Relations, who's corporate members include Merck, Pfizer & GlaxoSmithKline. This sounds legit!
 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:34 AM
 
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A video produced by the Council on Foreign Relations, who's corporate members include Merck, Pfizer & GlaxoSmithKline. This sounds legit!
Exactly.
 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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There's also ample evidence that many of the VPD were already on the decline when certain vaccines were introduced.
What diseases were those?

Interesting that the only Hockey players on the Canada team that got mumps were the Americans who were not vaccinated against it.
 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:39 AM
 
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A video produced by the Council on Foreign Relations, who's corporate members include Merck, Pfizer & GlaxoSmithKline. This sounds legit!
They make much more money selling antibiotics and other drugs such as Tamaflu to treat diseases and complications of such.
 
Old 12-09-2014, 10:43 AM
 
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Vaccination rates of children have dropped. However, the autism rate has gone up. We can conclude that vaccinations have nothing to do with autism.

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One in 68 U.S. children has an autism spectrum disorder (ASD), a 30% increase from 1 in 88 two years ago, according to a new report released Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Autism rates now 1 in 68 U.S. children: CDC - CNN.com
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