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Old 12-14-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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I'm pretty liberal, but I will be the first to say that the reason black males are targeted by police is because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Lets try and fix that, and the rest will eventually take care of itself. I will flat out admit that I am extremely weary when around young black men. It's not because I don't like young black men, it's because I'm not out of touch with reality.

You must be out of touch with reality or you'd stop being weary, I assume you mean wary, of people who are not likely to do anything to you.

How do you suggest that it be fixed?

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Wouldn't you like to see a cop (white or black) shoot a black thug moments before they shoot a black college girl delivering pizzas to pay for her schooling?

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Chester-Pizza-Delivery-Woman-Shot-Paralyzed--285444831.html

Or how about a black gang member that shoots into a home and hits a 5 year old girl? Wouldn't it be nice if a cop had shot this animal 1 second before he killed this little girl? This crap happens a thousand times all over the country. So yes, there are plenty who deserve to be shot.

INNOCENT black lives matter a whole lot more than a robber, murderer or a rapist. Those other lives? Not so much!

Sure if you could catch him in the act but how often does that happen? You also seem to miss that this guy would have been armed if he was going to shoot into the home of a family.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:14 PM
 
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I remember, years ago, a full blown pursuit, northbound I-17, driver threw a gun out the car, he bailed and we got into a fistfight in a Circle-K ( a 7-11 type establishment). I got him into custody and found out later, he was an enforcer for the Nazi Lowriders.
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He had a ton of warrants and the best deal he could garner from the County Attorney, was 20 years. This kid pled to 20 years. He's still in jail as I'm typing this, yet, if we were standing side by side and you didn't know his history, you'd trust him more than you would me (I'm Black)....

never judge a book by it's cover.
A lot depends on how people act or dress. Judging a book by its cover is a bad deal, but it's reality.
If I didn't know either of you, and you both dresses and acted the same, then yes, I would trust him more than you because of life experiences and statistics. In college, I was a bartender. I worked at a club that was about 90% white and Hispanic in San Antonio. I can tell you that in the 10 months that I worked at this place, about 75% of the the riff-raff was caused by black men despite the fact that they made up a very small percentage of our patrons. My old boss who was black also worked as a bartender while playing minor league ball in Eugene Oregon used to go off about his experiences in dealing with the same problem. I remember him saying that he worked in a bar right by the Oregon campus that was almost entirely white kids, but almost all the fights that he had to break up were caused by the very small black crowd that would hang out there. The black community needs to stop blaming outside influences for their actions and start condemning this type of behavior or it will never stop. It's a cultural issue that needs to be addressed. Bad cops aren't causing young black men to act this way, they're just responding to it.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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A lot depends on how people act or dress. Judging a book by its cover is a bad deal, but it's reality.
If I didn't know either of you, and you both dresses and acted the same, then yes, I would trust him more than you because of life experiences and statistics. In college, I was a bartender. I worked at a club that was about 90% white and Hispanic in San Antonio. I can tell you that in the 10 months that I worked at this place, about 75% of the the riff-raff was caused by black men despite the fact that they made up a very small percentage of our patrons. My old boss who was black also worked as a bartender while playing minor league ball in Eugene Oregon used to go off about his experiences in dealing with the same problem. I remember him saying that he worked in a bar right by the Oregon campus that was almost entirely white kids, but almost all the fights that he had to break up were caused by the very small black crowd that would hang out there. The black community needs to stop blaming outside influences for their actions and start condemning this type of behavior or it will never stop. It's a cultural issue that needs to be addressed. Bad cops aren't causing young black men to act this way, they're just responding to it.
That's funny, I bartended on the side in Phoenix, the majority of the troublemakers were White, and working here in the southwest, the majority of the people I deal with on both sides of the handcuffs are.... wait for it...White. So, going by this, I guess it's OK for me to profile ALL White people, or maybe it's a cultural thing that ALL White people need to address.

Do you see how stupid that sounds?
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:25 PM
 
Location: USA
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I want a jury to decide how people should be punished, not a pissed off beat cop who thinks some teenager deserves a beating for looking at him funny.

How can anyone think getting jumped by police is OK as some rite of passage for black kids?
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Riding the light...
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Lots of Talk about How Black Men are Being Targeted.....

Hmmm, targeted, police, unions, democrats... ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:29 PM
 
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A lot depends on how people act or dress. Judging a book by its cover is a bad deal, but it's reality.
If I didn't know either of you, and you both dresses and acted the same, then yes, I would trust him more than you because of life experiences and statistics. In college, I was a bartender. I worked at a club that was about 90% white and Hispanic in San Antonio. I can tell you that in the 10 months that I worked at this place, about 75% of the the riff-raff was caused by black men despite the fact that they made up a very small percentage of our patrons. My old boss who was black also worked as a bartender while playing minor league ball in Eugene Oregon used to go off about his experiences in dealing with the same problem. I remember him saying that he worked in a bar right by the Oregon campus that was almost entirely white kids, but almost all the fights that he had to break up were caused by the very small black crowd that would hang out there. The black community needs to stop blaming outside influences for their actions and start condemning this type of behavior or it will never stop. It's a cultural issue that needs to be addressed. Bad cops aren't causing young black men to act this way, they're just responding to it.

That is pretty interesting. I have friends who are bartenders and have had the exact opposite issues. Their fights were mainly drunk white boys even with more than a handful of black guys coming in all of the time.

The black community needs to do nothing but what it has been doing minus some who need to check those round them and those who need to switch their way of thinking (actual gang members, violent types and those who do not respect others and themselves). Black people don't need to go around condemning crap as it will more than likely not influence those who need to hear it and duh they already do but no one is taking to Twitter in order to try and appease some idiots who assume that more than the minority of black people are a-ok with violent behavior.
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:44 PM
 
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I find it interesting that it is ok to narrow it down to black & man. How about men in general? Men in general make up a significant amount of the prison population. I bet if we start stopping and frisking across the spectrum, especially late night party time (drugs galore, maybe find some roofies in guy's pockets an stop a few rapes before they happen) then you can up the number of arrests.
Whites are stopped all of the time, it's that they don't yell racism and it isn't news worthy!
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Old 12-14-2014, 07:59 PM
 
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Whites are stopped all of the time, it's that they don't yell racism and it isn't news worthy!
Most sources agree that black people are more often the target of police brutality. Regardless, it shouldn't happen to anyone.
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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Whites are stopped all of the time, it's that they don't yell racism and it isn't news worthy!
I believe that they are stopped all of the time and if they are stopped for made up reasons or treated unfairly then they should speak up. Why should people suffer in silence?
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:53 PM
 
Location: southern california
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the were not murders i said killings and its 96 according to FBI nationwide per year not per month.
this little girl nor her family did anything except be white.
the black squad a local memphis gang appears to have burned her alive in panola county.
until this stops your moral outrage about police conduct is a minor issue.


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