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View Poll Results: Would you vote for a non Christian president
No 20 14.93%
Yes, (religion would be irrelevant) 83 61.94%
Yes (so long as he/she wasn't Muslim) 20 14.93%
Yes (so long as he/she wasn't Atheist) 2 1.49%
Other 9 6.72%
Voters: 134. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-15-2014, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
Are you referring to President Obama?
I honestly don't think Obama is Chrisitan, or religious at all. I definitely think he fakes it.

I mean, I get it. But wish somebody would have the balls to stand up and make it clear that they were not Christian and still run for office. We need an atheist president more than a woman president.

 
Old 12-15-2014, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Originally Posted by Redraven View Post
Interesting.
If you google Unitarian, you find this on Wikipedia:
"Unitarianism is a Christian theological movement named for its understanding of God as one person, in direct contrast to Trinitarianism, which defines God as three persons coexisting consubstantially in one being.[1] Unitarians maintain that Jesus is in some sense the "son" of God but that he is not the one God.[2] Unitarianism is also known for the rejection of several other conventional Christian doctrines,[3] including the soteriological doctrines of original sin and predestination,[4][5] and, in more recent history, biblical inerrancy.[6] In J. Gordon Melton's Encyclopedia of American Religions it is classified among "the 'liberal' family of churches".[7]
The Unitarian movement, although not called "Unitarian" initially, began almost simultaneously in Poland-Lithuania and Transylvania in the mid-16th century. Among the adherents were a significant number of Italians.[8][9] In England the first Unitarian Church was established in 1774 on Essex Street, London, where today's British Unitarian headquarters are still located.[10] The first official acceptance of the Unitarian faith on the part of a congregation in America was by King's Chapel in Boston, from where James Freeman began teaching Unitarian doctrine in 1784, and was appointed rector and revised the Prayer Book according to Unitarian doctrines in 1786.[11]"

For more information:
Was John Adams A Christian? John Adams Religious Beliefs | John Adams

and here:
Famous Unitarians
Well, Wiki tends to be simplistic, and sometimes that's OK. But they kind of got it wrong here.
Unitarian Universalism - Profile of the Unitarian Universalist Association
"The religion distinguishes itself from Christian denominations in that it welcomes but does not require belief in God or the Trinity. . . . A further distinction of the Unitarian Universalist Association is that the group does not teach the divinity of Jesus Christ nor require belief in him as savior."

The link about John Adams was interesting. It seems he personally believed in Christ, and the Unitarian Church itself had not yet come up with that doctrine.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 06:49 PM
 
Location: SC
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I wish I could get an atheist or agnostic elected.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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And then there were some of our best ones. The ones with no formal affiliation: Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Andrew Johnson!

Time for another President with 'no formal affiliation'
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
That would be ok. There are many excellent Christian Churches in US which are non-denominational. I go to one myself.
Aside from the fact that there were few, if any, non-dom churches in Lincoln's time, Lincoln attended church very infrequently, and he often mocked religion. He did not believe in the divinity of Christ, and he did not belong to any church.

President Lincoln's Secret | OnFaith
 
Old 12-15-2014, 06:52 PM
 
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Absolutely.

It's time this country had a president who appreciated a plate of Bubbe's homemade latkes.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Montréal & New York area
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Originally Posted by Katiana View Post
We've already had several non-Christian presidents: John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Fillmore and Taft. They were Unitarians.
The Religious Affiliations of U.S. Presidents | Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project
Unitarian is a Christian sect/denomination !
 
Old 12-15-2014, 06:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by carlbenator View Post
In answer to the original question, NO.

He doesn't have to be a preacher, but he does have to share my BASIC Christian views and principles.
Other than believing in Christ which principle do you think are solely Christian principles? If they're not then wouldn't someone simply sharing those principles be enough?
 
Old 12-15-2014, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Montréal & New York area
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Originally Posted by LS Jaun View Post
And then there were some of our best ones. The ones with no formal affiliation: Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Andrew Johnson!

Time for another President with 'no formal affiliation'
They still had Christian background. Nice try
 
Old 12-15-2014, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Unitarian is a Christian sect/denomination !
You need to read through the posts put up since you last were here. Unitarians CAN believe in the divinity of Christ, but they need not. They don't even need to believe in God.
 
Old 12-15-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Unitarian is a Christian sect/denomination !
Not really. It came out of Christianity, but it does not affirm the things about Christ that are asserted in the New Testament or any of the creeds.
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