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Old 12-21-2014, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Part of the problem is that FeMA is requiring different flood zone coverage based on a 1000 year storm that will likely never come again. And most beachfront property in nj is crappy houses and cottages, not mansions.
Because it will bring in more money that most likely will never be claimed.
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Old 12-21-2014, 02:09 PM
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How about we let the market take care of things? Sell off all the "public beaches" and if people want to go to the beach, the owners will respond by allowing access at the market price.
Okay.
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Old 12-21-2014, 02:20 PM
 
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Okay.
Thank you. Government should not own land. So called "public beaches" and "public parks" should be transferred to private interests immediately to do with as they please.

Do you know how much natural gas is in Yellowstone? What better place to make glass than at the Great Sand Dunes? How many profitable buildings could be built in NYC's Central Park?
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Old 12-21-2014, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Tulare County, Ca
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Question: Can the public sue the property owners if they injure themselves on the access? Are the property owners liable for anything that happens? If so, I can see one reason why they wouldn't want to grant access to the public. The public is very litigious these days.
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Old 12-21-2014, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Question: Can the public sue the property owners if they injure themselves on the access? Are the property owners liable for anything that happens? If so, I can see one reason why they wouldn't want to grant access to the public. The public is very litigious these days.
Sure but the access is owned by the local government, not the adjacent property owners.

Beach access ways are public property owned by the local government or the state or the Fed.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:40 PM
 
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The public does not deserve a day at the beach at the expense of property owners whose enjoyment of their property is diminished by the presence of the riff-raff. On a larger scale, this is communism. All public lands from NJ beaches to the Grand Canyon to the national forests should be sold to whomever can pay the most. The owners would then be free to charge whatever they wished to allow access, exploit them for their resource value, or preserve the lands for their own enjoyment without the masses trampling and despoiling them.
LMAO...the Grand Canyon?

You must be losing your mind.

Yeah...let's sell that so that the only way you'll get to see it is on a flight to Vegas..during the day of course.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:43 PM
 
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Thank you. Government should not own land. So called "public beaches" and "public parks" should be transferred to private interests immediately to do with as they please.

Do you know how much natural gas is in Yellowstone? What better place to make glass than at the Great Sand Dunes? How many profitable buildings could be built in NYC's Central Park?
The "government" isn't some giant on that hill over there.

The government is the people. You and I own Yellowstone . And I'm not interested in selling it. Ever.

There's plenty of other private property that people can buy.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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Hmmmm .......

THe federal government, IIRFC, "owns" from 3 mile out to 200 miles out. The states "own" from three miles out to the mean high tide mark.

I dont know about other states, but ere in California the people voted in the 30's that we should have state beaches and public access to those beaches.

I. for one, am a little tired of the free market weenies calling for the plutocrats to own everything and we peons having to pay for access to public land.

What sad little people you are that you think that ALL of us should not share in some of the abundance this nation offers.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:58 AM
 
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How about we let the market take care of things? Sell off all the "public beaches" and if people want to go to the beach, the owners will respond by allowing access at the market price.

Why not do the same thing with parks while you're at it?
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Old 12-22-2014, 05:01 AM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Thank you. Government should not own land. So called "public beaches" and "public parks" should be transferred to private interests immediately to do with as they please.

Do you know how much natural gas is in Yellowstone? What better place to make glass than at the Great Sand Dunes? How many profitable buildings could be built in NYC's Central Park?
You're being facetious? Right?
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