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Old 12-21-2014, 10:25 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Interesting map. It is the percent of income by county that comes from gov't, things like SS disability, welfare, food stamps, etc.

I thought Red State people believed in getting the gov't off their backs and making it by their own hard work... so why is 25% to HALF of total income in most Red States coming from non work??

USDA ERS - Rural Poverty & Well-being: Transfer Payments

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Old 12-21-2014, 10:30 AM
 
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Because red-states have more poor people and they vote against their own interests. They vote for the same crooks trying to cut their welfare. Red state leaders are con men.
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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LOL..check out those dark red blobs in Texas..right along the border. Illegals and their kids sucking up your taxpayer dollars folks.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:03 AM
 
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Take a more nuanced view of it.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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LOL..check out those dark red blobs in Texas..right along the border. Illegals and their kids sucking up your taxpayer dollars folks.
East and Central Texas aren't missing too much of that federal largesse either according to that map.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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Most of the welfare in Red States goes to minorities in the cities.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:07 AM
 
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Most of the welfare in Red States goes to minorities in the cities.
LOL..look at that map. Your sentence is coming up lame.

Look, i don't buy into the whole Red State/welfare thing, but that map says something completely different than what you're saying.

Rural areas in this country, especially in Red States, aren't losing out on the welfare train.

Look at Michigan. Yeah i know...not exactly a red state.

But look at the top of the mitten. No big cities and few minorities up there.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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Most of the welfare in Red States goes to minorities in the cities.
Seems the left really doesn't get that part. Look at Indian Reservations and where "food Stamp" food in grown.

Another factor is population in those Red States.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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LOL..look at that map. Your sentence is coming up lame.

Look, i don't buy into the whole Red State/welfare thing, but that map says something completely different than what you're saying.

Rural areas in this country, especially in Red States, aren't losing out on the welfare train.

Look at Michigan. Yeah i know...not exactly a red state.

But look at the top of the mitten. No big cities and few minorities up there.
A lot of Idaho's rural country are the Reservations and State Land. Plus most of Idaho's backcountry is owned by the state, where does this factor into Red State welfare? Plus, many tribal members benefit from government paid jobs, non-tribal members in Idaho are not allowed these jobs.

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Interesting map. It is the percent of income by county that comes from gov't, things like SS disability, welfare, food stamps, etc.

I thought Red State people believed in getting the gov't off their backs and making it by their own hard work... so why is 25% to HALF of total income in most Red States coming from non work??

USDA ERS - Rural Poverty & Well-being: Transfer Payments
Your map, as for the West Coast goes seems to show plenty of $$$ going to Las Vegas area and the corner of CA and Oregon. Isn't the section darkened in Arizona, mostly Indian Reservations?

Reading the link you provided shows the map and how they colored it: What is included in government transfer payments to individuals?

Seems they LUMPED everything together.......can we done with Red States have more welfare than Blue states do. California probably has more food stamp type of welfare than, Idaho and Montana put together.

Retirement and disability insurance benefits, Medical benefits (includes Medicare benefits), Income maintenance benefit, Unemployment insurance compensation, Veterans' benefits, Education and training assistance.

Other transfer receipts of individuals from governments: Other transfer receipts of individuals from governments consist largely of Bureau of Indian Affairs payments, education exchange payments, Alaska Permanent Fund dividend payments, compensation of survivors of public safety officers, compensation of victims of crime, disaster relief payments, compensation for Japanese internment, and other special payments to individuals.
Note that government pensions and farm payment are not included in transfer payments to individuals.

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Old 12-21-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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A lot of Idaho's rural country are the Reservations and State Land. Plus most of Idaho's backcountry is owned by the state, where does this factor into Red State welfare? Plus, many tribal members benefit from government paid jobs, non-tribal members in Idaho are not allowed these jobs.



Your map, as for the West Coast goes seems to show plenty of $$$ going to Las Vegas area and the corner of CA and Oregon. Isn't the section darkened in Arizona, mostly Indian Reservations?
Come on now...let's not put everything on the Indians. Plenty of white and black folks suck off the federal teet in this country.

And the federal teet isn't always welfare either. Big Ag subsidization is just as bad as welfare in some places...and that's not going in the hands of the Indians.
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