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I don't know, and I'll think about it, but I definitely don't consider him African-American. But, I am not comfortable with all the hyphens, in general. Having to work with demographic data, the categories always given me a stomach ache (not prone to headaches ), and I often received a reprimand from those guys in Washington when I would argue with them.
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That's an interesting observation. Would you be comfortable with describing him as an African/American?
Yes, the Senator has a very good resume. However, I don't consider him African American, and always find it strange when this term is used for a man whose father was African, and whose mother was born in the US.
But aside from this pickiness on my part, I think the Senator has shown he got a good education and did something with it.
And our current President had a good education and although we criticize him roundly, we can't take away from the fact that he was elected twice to the highest office in the country.
No fan; but fair is fair.
He's a first generation American on his father's side. I don't know, does he consider himself African American? I seriously don't know. I remember how much criticism Tiger Woods endured when he refused to call himself African American.
Obama earned his education, George W. Bush had his bestowed upon him. Big difference.
Good question: What does he consider himself? When I worked for the St. Government, I would encourage folks to self-identify. Inter-racial or multi-ethnic people struggle with identity, and it doesn't surprise me that Tiger Woods objected to the label.
But as I said, I don't like the labels.
Do you really think that it is so simple this bestowed upon him rather than earned that is bandied around.
I loathe the way President Bush has served this country, but I wonder how much of how he behaves is a performance, a mimic of a famous cowboy or three. And not who he is!
I have some real good acquaintances from Texas who knew the President when he was Governor, and they say, repeatedly, the he is smart!
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He's a first generation American on his father's side. I don't know, does he consider himself African American? I seriously don't know. I remember how much criticism Tiger Woods endured when he refused to call himself African American.
Obama earned his education, George W. Bush had his bestowed upon him. Big difference.
That's an interesting observation. Would you be comfortable with describing him as an African/American?
Using this term for Barack is a lot more appropriate than using it for someone who happens to be black and came here via South American heritage or from the Caribbean.
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I feel confident that my Bachelor's Degree from King's College and my Master's Degree from the University of Scranton will be just as valuable to me as any degree that could be conferred by Harvard, Yale, Stanford, or Princeton. My former Calculus teacher at my alma mater scored a 1580 on her SAT and was accepted to Harvard but turned them down in order to attend Wilkes University. Is she any less deserving of a career opportunity simply because her degree isn't printed upon Ivy-league institution letterhead? I myself know many brilliant minds here at King's College, a small liberal arts school in a small city. When I'm employing associates at my future firm I'd gladly consider someone with a Bachelor's Degree from (gasp) a STATE SCHOOL just as much as I'd consider someone with the same four-year degree from an Ivy-league institution of higher learning. After all, interviewing skills are just as important as your qualifications. If you have a Harvard MBA but are as personable as a wet noodle, why should I hire you over a University of Scranton MBA who is a go-getter?
I agree. I have seen lawyers that graduated from the KU School of Law whip the socks off Havard law graduates. Ivy looks good on a resume and may get you a job in a high end law firm but it does not make you a good trial attorney.
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He's a first generation American on his father's side. I don't know, does he consider himself African American? I seriously don't know. I remember how much criticism Tiger Woods endured when he refused to call himself African American.
Obama earned his education, George W. Bush had his bestowed upon him. Big difference.
If Tiger Woods or Barrack Obama go to the curb and try to hail a cab and the cab passes them by, they are "black". Tiger can call himself whatever he wants and he may even be technically correct but in the real world... different story.
If you can still stand up and hold a beer in your hand without spilling it, you're qualified to have an opinion. Being found curled up in the fetal position on the floor of a men's room stall might be a disqualifying factor, however. In that case, we'll be having no more opinions from you...
Basically all of those stations report the same news. The fact that Fox News doesn't put a liberal spin on it seems to upset some people and they call it "fake."
Also, the fact that Fox News has far higher ratings than the other stations upsets others and they have to bash it.
[QUOTE=KevK;2427933]If Tiger Woods or Barrack Obama go to the curb and try to hail a cab and the cab passes them by, they are "black". Tiger can call himself whatever he wants and he may even be technically correct but in the real world... different story.[/quote]
Very true. Society deems you what you are no matter how/what you think.
Basically all of those stations report the same news. The fact that Fox News doesn't put a liberal spin on it seems to upset some people and they call it "fake."
Also, the fact that Fox News has far higher ratings than the other stations upsets others and they have to bash it.
I am not upset at all
I find it amusing that people that watch Fox news make remarks about CNBC...
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), and I often received a reprimand from those guys in Washington when I would argue with them. 
