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Old 12-25-2014, 04:08 AM
 
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I see, so the left is defending the oppression of saddam as the only type of situation/government option to protect the christians...:roll eyes:

So if the US did not invade, thousands would have to endure being tortured and killed, many of them gassed, but the christians, well, they could come go as they please, yeah that's amazing "logic" and "reasoning".... :roll eyes:

Is there any BS excuse the far left won't manufacture to defend their ideological arab muslim allies?
The US did not invade Iraq, Geo. Bush did. The people of the US had no reason to invade Iraq until Bush convinced people that invading Iraq was a justified War.

If anyone has a problem with what is going on in the ME, join up with a faction that is fighting your cause. The US needs no more Holy wars.

I accept my responsibility as an American for not speaking out more forcefully, I just wish the right and Bush would accept their's.
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Old 12-25-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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The "dreadful far left?" LOL..Like you said, 1.5 million when "The Americans" invaded, and 400k now. What does that tell you. Before Americans, AFTER Americans. See?
See what? Was it the americans who ethnically cleansed those christians out of iraq? No they did not - it's been arab muslims who have done that. And my point that it required a murderous arab muslim dictator to keep the arab muslims from slaughtering each other was unsurprisingly ignored by you.

How about syria/assad's massacres of tens of thousands of children and women - did the US invade there too? What's your juvenile excuse for the massacres by assad's animals in Houla, Baniyas and Aleppo?

Your pathetic deflection attempts cannot even aspire to be called "arguments."
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Old 12-25-2014, 08:42 AM
 
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This is not a partisan issue. Our interventionist foreign policy has been going on for decades under both Republican and Democratic administrations. The fact is a strong Assad and Saddam would equal no ISIS.
Disagree. Assad had been using terrorist groups for years to undermine lebanon, attack israel, and turkey - as a terrorist state, syria has killed far, far more people than 100 ISIS'.
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Old 12-25-2014, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Disagree. Assad had been using terrorist groups for years to undermine lebanon, attack israel, and turkey - as a terrorist state, syria has killed far, far more people than 100 ISIS'.
ISIS is a self-proclaimed enemy of the United States and all Western Civilization. Mr. Assad is not. QED.
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Old 12-25-2014, 11:55 AM
 
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ISIS is a self-proclaimed enemy of the United States and all Western Civilization. Mr. Assad is not. QED.
Oh, because he said so, right....so when a dictator says something - all of the idiots are supposed to line and buy it, suuuuure.

Are you even attempting to be credible at this point, or just trying to waste space in the thread?
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Old 12-25-2014, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Oh, because he said so, right....so when a dictator says something - all of the idiots are supposed to line and buy it, suuuuure.

Are you even attempting to be credible at this point, or just trying to waste space in the thread?
As Middle Eastern factions go, I like Assad. I wish him success. Make of that what you please.
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Old 12-25-2014, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Houston
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It is Islamic fundamentalists at war with the West not secular dictators. It actually makes more sense to undermine ISIS than it did Assad or Saddam. Time to quit while we are behind.
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Old 12-25-2014, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Houston
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As Middle Eastern factions go, I like Assad. I wish him success. Make of that what you please.
Yep, agree 100 percent
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Old 12-25-2014, 06:21 PM
 
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As Middle Eastern factions go, I like Assad. I wish him success. Make of that what you please.
So a POS dictator put in power due to a 40+ year family dynasty, who represents a 15% minority of the population ruling over and oppressing the other 85%, who has mass slaughtered tens of thousands of children using bayonets, barrel bombs and such, has oppressed/tortured/murdered thousands of Lebanese, is the one you support?

The next time you utter so much as a peep about Israel's alleged mistreatment of the arabs who call themselves "palestinians," I will refer to that ridiculous post.

Whatever credibility you had just flew out the window like a rocket...
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Old 12-25-2014, 06:24 PM
 
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It is Islamic fundamentalists at war with the West not secular dictators. It actually makes more sense to undermine ISIS than it did Assad or Saddam. Time to quit while we are behind.
Secular dictators are better? For whom?

You do know that assad was protecting and using terrorist groups operating all over Europe and the mideast, right?

A secular dictator is no better than a religious fanatic one; they merely couch their murder and lunacy in a more eye-pleasing jacket.
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