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Old 12-27-2014, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Of course there are radical feminists. I noticed you didn't mention people like Andrea Dworkin.
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Old 12-27-2014, 11:10 AM
 
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Cool.

I've never met them, though friends have. My former business partner apparently crossed paths with them many times, as both fished in Alaska, in the same place.

Good luck on not being deluged with hate, now. Perhaps you shouldn't have said that.
I have posted it before.

Even the fact that my husband had a bad hunting accident a few years back........Todd stayed with him until I could get there.
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Old 12-27-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Hampton Roads,Va
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there really are no "radical feminists" just women working to get equality. just where are the radical fems? do they march in the streets? picket? riot? stomp their feet? no. the only real organization for women and equality is NOW and they just go about their business trying to make folks aware of the problems facing women of the world and try to solve the problems. the radical feminist are mostly made up in the minds of men who don't want women to be on equal footing as men. if the shoe fits.....
check out Stop Patriarchy, anti pornography and Maoist feminist organization. These people aren't equal rights activist but ideologues forcing their views on people. They are classic radical feminists.
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Old 12-27-2014, 11:18 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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Of course there are radical feminists. I noticed you didn't mention people like Andrea Dworkin.
Andrea Dworkin was a fascinating woman and extremely divisive -- radical, if you will -- but you can't seriously believe that she represents the totality of the equal rights movement, can you? Her goal, in many ways was to create controversy, much the same as the many anonymous posters here on this forum and others who write outrageous things. Her life was also a tragedy, and that very much influenced her activism. I identify as a feminist, but in no way do I accept Dworkin as a role model or in any way as representative of my beliefs about equal rights.
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Old 12-27-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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Andrea Dworkin was a fascinating woman and extremely divisive -- radical, if you will -- but you can't seriously believe that she represents the totality of the equal rights movement, can you? Her goal, in many ways was to create controversy, much the same as the many anonymous posters here on this forum and others who write outrageous things. Her life was also a tragedy, and that very much influenced her activism. I identify as a feminist, but in no way do I accept Dworkin as a role model or in any way as representative of my beliefs about equal rights.
The equal rights movement ended many decades ago. They succeeded in winning what they were after and the battle is done.

What exists now is a political ideology movement pretending to be about rights.
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Old 12-27-2014, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Also,

If these so called Feminazis do exist why aren't they screaming about the leggy blond Miss America candidates broadcasting the news on FOX?
Maybe because they have impressive resumes.

Let's see what their backgrounds are according to Wikipedia:

Before she was a reporter Martha McCallum worked for Dow Jones (corporate relations). Her first reporter job was for Corporate Finance Magazine. She went to CNBC and did a business show on the business side of security and war. She was a business correspondent for Wall Street Journal Television. She's 50. A little old for Miss America.

Megyn Kelly went to law school and worked as a lawyer in a Chicago law firm and in an International law firm totaling at least a decade before working for the local ABC TV news station in DC. She's 44, also a little old for Miss America.

Dana Perrino was, of course, the White House Press Secretary, Deputy Press Secretary, was a spokesperson for the Department of Justice, was a staff assistant for a US Representative, was a press secretary for a different US Representative. Her masters is in Public Affairs Reporting. While she was in college she worked at some local media jobs. She's 42. A little old for Miss America.

Monica Crowley (no relation to Candy) has a PhD in International Relations from Columbia. She worked for Richard Nixon as a research assistant after he was an ex-President. She worked for MSNBC, has her own radio show and was a regular participant with The McLaughlin Group. She's a think tank board member, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and Alan Colmes' sister-in-law. She published 2 books about Nixon. She's 46. A little old for Miss America.

Lis Wiehl has a Juris Doctor from Harvard. When she's not on Fox, she's an Adjunct Professor at NY Law School and once was an associate professor at University of Washington Law School. She was also a principal deputy chief minority investigative counsel for the United States House of Representatives, Committee on Judiciary and she worked as a litigation associate for a private law firm. She's written 5 best selling books. She's 53. A little old for Miss America.

Greta Van Susteren got her Juris Doctor from Georgetown Law School and was an adjunct professor there as well. She was a trial attorney who has argued cases in federal appellate courts and state supreme courts. She worked at CNN as a legal analyst and as the host of her own show before coming to Fox News. She founded an orphanage and school in Haiti and is part owner of a Long Island restaurant. She's 60 and beyond Miss America.

Gretchen Carlson was a Miss Minnesota and a Miss America so you got one right. Interestingly, her childhood nanny was Michelle Bachmann. Remember that the next time you play Trivia. She's 48.


I don't know what blondes are on in the morning as I don't watch Fox News or any other TV show in the morning but as you can see from the above, the Fox News blondes are not fluffy and I'm sure the brunettes are just as impressive.

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Old 12-27-2014, 11:44 AM
 
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I don't know what blondes are on in the morning as I don't watch Fox News or any other TV show in the morning but as you can see from the above, the Fox News blondes are not fluffy and I'm sure the brunettes are just as impressive.
The wife says they are indeed "fluffy", but I think she meant shape, not brain...
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Old 12-27-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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Such compensation is never based on "hours". It is based on what those create the movies think the person is worth to the success of the venture.

Could they cast someone other than Jennifer and have the series succeed? She IS the face of the entire franchise. Sad to say, it's hypocrisy beyond belief. I did go see the first movie. If I ever watch the rest, it'll be because of her talents (no, not her looks). I thought she embodied the character they wanted to portray.

So why is she paid less?
When Jennifer Lawrence was cast in the first Hunger Games movie, she was unknown. That film launched her career. She may have been paid less to star in the Hunger Games movies, but those films helped make her a household name. In a similar story, Robert Downey Jr. was paid less to star in the first Iron Man (1 million) than Terrence Howard was (5 million). That film remade Robert Downey Jr.'s career. He was a washed up has-been before that movie. Now he's a massive star.

It's likely that Jennifer Lawrence has contractual obligations to star in the Hunger Game sequels. Who knows what the contract covers? At that point in her career, she was probably ecstatic to get a starring role in a film based on a known book series. Her agent might have low balled her pay, knowing that a role in such a huge film would bring her name recognition, which would allow her to negotiate bigger paychecks for other films.
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Old 12-27-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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When Jennifer Lawrence was cast in the first Hunger Games movie, she was unknown. That film launched her career. She may have been paid less to star in the Hunger Games movies, but those films helped make her a household name. In a similar story, Robert Downey Jr. was paid less to star in the first Iron Man (1 million) than Terrence Howard was (5 million). That film remade Robert Downey Jr.'s career. He was a washed up has-been before that movie. Now he's a massive star.

It's likely that Jennifer Lawrence has contractual obligations to star in the Hunger Game sequels. Who knows what the contract covers? At that point in her career, she was probably ecstatic to get a starring role in a film based on a known book series. Her agent might have low balled her pay, knowing that a role in such a huge film would bring her name recognition, which would allow her to negotiate bigger paychecks for other films.
Thank you.

When people bring their intellect to bear on the DETAILS of what would appear to be the causes of and evidence of what feminists today protest, their arguments become invalid.

The point of all this, is that the modern feminist movement is NOT created by "right wing media". It is, in fact, a radical movement, in and of itself, which is self justified by a lot of hazy, less than honest noise.

Feminists would have served their cause (their credibility) far better if they had actually promoted what they originally claimed to. Palin claims to be a feminist, btw. Having a life story of purely blue collar background and NO political dynasty to being governor would be THE feminist "Cinderella story" - an example of precisely what feminism is supposedly to accomplish - the removal of barriers in society to the individual aspirations - not just for women, but breaking down barriers to the boundaries of imagined classes and segments. Palin is proof, actually, of the success of equal rights.

You don't have to like her politics or accent. Or agree with her policies as governor to celebrate the very model of an empowered woman.

But ideology superseded the so-called goals and purpose. And you don't have to be "right wing" to understand that or recognize it. Just honest.
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Old 12-27-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Please don't be ignorant.

That's wholly untrue. You should know that, if you intend to discuss reality.
You've dissed me twice. That earns me the right to ask you who really said "I can see Russia from my house".
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