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Old 12-27-2014, 07:14 PM
 
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Sounds about right, it is much easier for right wingers to deflect than it is to answer an actual question.
We can answer it just fine, but you cop hating leftists will never understand it because you don't share our values, which include respecting and honoring people who risk their lives by serving in uniform.

Your heroes are people brave enough to publicly announce who they like to sleep with, stand in front of bulldozers in Israel to win Darwin awards, and politicians who can't say the word "corpsman." You and I have nothing in common so you will never get it. You weren't lucky enough to be raised with the values instilled in me by my formerly Democrat parents.
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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The NYPD union has always been militant, and their sheep (who wear the uniforms) follow along blindly. Lynch was backing the cops executing Louima, 41 shots at an unarmed guy in a vestibule, and this "We never do nothing wrong" guy was blindly back the cops in that case, too.

The public servants in blue became the public masters, and too many of the public blindly are fine with that.
When Giuliani was mayor the union also published a letter banning him from any police funerals.
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:18 PM
 
Location: NJ
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MJJersey, Crime dropped EVERYWHERE, as 18-30 male (any race) dropped as % of total population.

When stop and frisk ended this year, NYC crime dropped..AFTER that point, too.

NYC is on track for its lowest murder total in decades, far lower per capita than most other US cities all over the nation.
NYC was data-mining, and I do think Bratton built a "phony rep" largely based on knowing simple demographics would lower the crime rate..concurrent to his reign, and he just rode the wave.
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Stop and frisk was implemented in the late 70s when the city was a crime-infested war zone and crime has plummeted since then. I'm not saying that stop and frisk was the main reason but it likely contributed. We will never know if it would have stopped this guy. As for the police killing Gardner, that's just not true. He died while resisting arrest. The cop should not have used a horse tackle, that's a disciplinary issue.
It once was stop and question, the frisk part was added in the 90's and has produced weak results, but has done a great job racial profiling people.
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If I told my son to be wary of black people what would that make me?
A parent.
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:58 PM
 
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Like many parents of black kids, he gave his kid 'the talk' about how bad police are instead of teaching him about statistics. probability and common sense.




my grandson is also bi racial but he is taught NOT to fear police
but if ever told something by one of them he is to listen and comply

what this jerk implied is he fears the NYPD
because they are racist
hell I support them turning their backs
the family has had nothing but grace and class
UNLIKE the frigging family of the thug in Ferguson
if that had been my husband I would not have wanted him there at all
I would have had Rudy speak
he respected the police
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:59 PM
 
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It once was stop and question, the frisk part was added in the 90's and has produced weak results, but has done a great job racial profiling people.


that is bull
NY is one of the safest cities in the world
well it was
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Old 12-27-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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When Giuliani was mayor the union also published a letter banning him from any police funerals.


prove it
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Old 12-27-2014, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Houston
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A parent.
Guess I was not a parent then, not a racist one anyways.
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Old 12-27-2014, 08:07 PM
 
Location: NYC
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His son and wife are black. This type of racial fiasco literally hits home for the man.

De Blasio made a pretty basic comment - black youth, specifically black males, are treated differently by the police and thus tend to have a different perspective on law enforcement when compared to white people. This is not an opinion..

If I want something from CVS I'll go after work, in my work clothes, because I don't feel like dealing with the stares of people when my black ass walks into the store dressed casually. I know there are plenty of police who would have no interest in talking with me and would automatically view me as a potential problem, from the get-go. Yet there are far right conservatives who refuse to acknowledge this, all while essentially advocating for profiling ("they commit way more crime than anyone else, of course police stop them more").
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