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Old 12-30-2014, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Taratova View Post

Allowing illegals to take hundreds of thousands of union jobs . Fighting the states when they try to uphold the laws that Obama refused to uphold.

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Illegals don't take. They are offered employment and accept it.

No one , not the US people and not the rest of the world who buys from the U.S., is willing to pay a premium for "made in the USA by union workers".

Nothing has precluded any state from mandating biometric ID. Why have most states rejected this?

Why do some who champion smaller government want to increase the size of government by hiring 20,000 more border patrol at $90,000 per hire? Yet those same people turn a blind eye to biometric ID.

No fence is high enough nor troops deep enough to put a dent in illegal immigration so long as employers are free to recruit and hire undocumented workers. No one is serious about preventing the undocumented from being employed.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Illegals don't take. They are offered employment and accept it.

No one , not the US people and not the rest of the world who buys from the U.S., is willing to pay a premium for "made in the USA by union workers".

Nothing has precluded any state from mandating biometric ID. Why have most states rejected this?

Why do some who champion smaller government want to increase the size of government by hiring 20,000 more border patrol at $90,000 per hire? Yet those same people turn a blind eye to biometric ID.

No fence is high enough nor troops deep enough to put a dent in illegal immigration so long as employers are free to recruit and hire undocumented workers. No one is serious about preventing the undocumented from being employed.
Obama has opened the gates and welcomed the illegals and with no legislation in place or Obama holding up the laws of the land, it will get worse.. Democrats are suppose to support the working man.. that is why the Democratic party is now the communist party... they no longer hold to what they are there to do.. support the American people .
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:35 AM
 
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That option is lost to them. Harry Reid already pulled the nuclear option so they could get that bankster loving Mel Watts confirmed to watch over the banks. Now they will pay the price for it. If it hasn't already happened, Watt has given them approval to start back the sub-prime lending nonsense again.

Oh yeah, and Mel Watts, a 20 year congressman from a court ordered gerrymandered district designed to elected a black representative (by court order) never ran in a real election. No coincidence that it's the same district as the HQ of Bank of America.

Lovely bunch those Democrats. Banksters & Wall Streeters love them.
I just find it such a waste of time reading posts from conservatives.

This poster has invented an alternate reality of what Harry Reid and Senate Democrats actually accomplished.

They didn't destroy the filibuster.

It still exists and will be used by Democrats.


This is all about Mel Watts? Lol
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Florida
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" The people will see the bills being vetoed over and over by Obama's pen, nothing new. "

Thus far Obama has vetoed 2 bills, the same number as George Washington.
Bush2- 12
Clinton-37
Bush1-44
Reagan-78
Carter-31
Ford- 66
Nixon- 43

FDR holds the record at 635 vetos, followed by Cleveland at 414.

The Pension Benefit Guarantee Corp has never guaranteed 100% of insolvent private pension plan payments. To do so, it would require socialization of all private pension plans.
You ignore the fact that illegals have taken union jobs from the AMERICAN people.. they will continue and the unions will dissolve as Obama brings in more illegals.. because the democratic party refused to support them . The two parties are there to ensure a balance for the AMERICAN people.. The democrats are no longer for the AMERICAN people..

Illegals make $2 an hour in their country equivalent to our money... it is equal to 10 times more money working over here and they send the money back.. billions of dollars are not circulating here ,, it is going to foreign countries.. it will get worse.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The point is that he signed the bipartisan spending bill and you spent a whole week complaining about him NOT vetoing it, and now you open a thread to preemptively complain about him vetoing bills in the future. Clearly you have already decided to complain no matter what he'll do, or won't do.

Based on your comments on the pension issue you are a mile to the left of them.

I hope you find your peace, because I don't know how you operate with so much resentment in your heart.
He expected King Obama to use a magic wand to somehow socialize private pensions and put the taxpayer on the hook for funding insolvent private plans at 100%.

The Pension Benefit Guarantee Corp ( PBGC) relies on insurance premiums paid by solvent pension plans and investment income to pay benefits on insolvent plans. Congress controls the amount of premiums and the payout. PBGC has run a deficit for all but 4 years of its 30+ year existance. Congress had kicked the unsustainable can all along. It has not mattered who sat the oval or held the majority.

PBGC has no regulatory authority beyond requiring pension plans to report on an annual basis. It has no authority to force a company to pay their premiums.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I am more moderate than you because I look at American people and how it will affect them.. blue collar as well.. you want compromise and then chastise someone who is moderate.. you are a strange one indeed.
A moderate would not demand for far-left policies like you do.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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I just find it such a waste of time reading posts from conservatives.
You waste our time by criticizing the messenger instead of addressing the message. It's very "progressive" you know. For the record, I was a registered Democrat for the last 20 years. But it doesn't mean I am completely blinded by party dogma.

No matter, the US voters have seen through such nonsense. This is why every Democrat in a real challenged election lost their seat, despite the 100s of millions spent in adverts to keep them there.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Florida
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He expected King Obama to use a magic wand to somehow socialize private pensions and put the taxpayer on the hook for funding insolvent private plans at 100%.

The Pension Benefit Guarantee Corp ( PBGC) relies on insurance premiums paid by solvent pension plans and investment income to pay benefits on insolvent plans. Congress controls the amount of premiums and the payout. PBGC has run a deficit for all but 4 years of its 30+ year existance. Congress had kicked the unsustainable can all along. It has not mattered who sat the oval or held the majority.

PBGC has no regulatory authority beyond requiring pension plans to report on an annual basis. It has no authority to force a company to pay their premiums.
You are ignoring the true facts.. Union members don't want a bail out.. they are the workers of the country , not the freebee takers.

This Obama administration is welcoming more illegals in and they have a history of being bused in to take union jobs. Facts..
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:48 AM
 
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You waste our time by criticizing the messenger instead of addressing the message. It's very "progressive" you know. For the record, I was a registered Democrat for the last 20 years. But it doesn't mean I am completely blinded by party dogma.

No matter, the US voters have seen through such nonsense. This is why every Democrat in a real challenged election lost their seat, despite the 100s of millions spent in adverts to keep them there.
I did address the insane message. It is fantasy. The filibuster still exists. Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats did not destroy it.
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Old 12-30-2014, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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A moderate would not demand for far-left policies like you do.
Far left.. doesn't the democratic party suppose to support the union workers.?. Clinton didn't when he passed nafta.. that great sucking sound of jobs happened .. far left is supporting illegals..that is far left.

The democratic party is now transformed into the socialist party ..
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