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Old 01-08-2015, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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You're one of the people who would advocate abolishing all medicine because people are still dying of diseases, ignoring the fact that medicine, just like gun control, saves millions of lives. It's a typical logical fallacy of people ignoring statistics:
You have your comparison backwards. Thousands of people die every year due to medical mistakes. An accurate comparison would be to ban medicine and hospitals to stop that...while ignoring the millions of lives that are saved. That is the logic of gun control advocates.
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Old 01-08-2015, 06:18 AM
 
Location: DC
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Peruta v. San Diego - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pretending something didn't happen or that facts don't exist doesn't make it so..... You guys who don't like guns seem to have a habit of that.

Regardless, until the highest court in the land weighs in on the matter, the verdict is indeed still out, just like I said.
I don't pretend. I don't live in California.

http://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/Opinions...d/121437.P.pdf
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:20 AM
 
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You're one of the people who would advocate abolishing all medicine because people are still dying of diseases, ignoring the fact that medicine, just like gun control, saves millions of lives. It's a typical logical fallacy of people ignoring statistics:

Just look at the homicide rates for the US and France:

France - 1.0
USA - 4.7


List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Yes, France should definitely abolish gun control so they could have homicide rate like ours: 4.7 times or 370% higher. Right, gun lovers?
I don't see how "strict gun laws" are going to stop a gang of murdering idiots (terrorists is too fancy a term for them).
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:34 AM
 
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You have your comparison backwards. Thousands of people die every year due to medical mistakes. An accurate comparison would be to ban medicine and hospitals to stop that...while ignoring the millions of lives that are saved. That is the logic of gun control advocates.
No need to go any further.....they all are....just look at the responses...
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:43 AM
 
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No, but a good start would be for the NRA and like minded groups to start an active public awareness campaign about safe storage and carry practices.
They have these campaigns like this but they have to only target NRA members through membership magazines and the NRA online.
When they have tried to use public media, they have been met with resistance.
Apparently, the media doesn't like the NRA.... who would have thought?
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:59 AM
 
Location: DC
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I don't see how "strict gun laws" are going to stop a gang of murdering idiots (terrorists is too fancy a term for them).
Over 1/2 of our homicides are based upon domestic quarrels. arguments with neighbors, etc. Strict gun control laws will certainly help. There's a myth that career criminals are the ones committing all the murders.
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Old 01-08-2015, 09:00 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Whether or not the trigger was pulled is beside the point.

The fact is that it's not all that unusual for guns to go off without anyone intending them to.

5 hurt in accidental shootings at 3 U.S. gun shows

Police: Vendor Shoots Woman At Gun Show While Demonstrating Gun Use

Guns often go off when people are going to the bathroom.
It's hardly often. It's quite rare, just like the WM accident. 300 million weapons and a handful of cases documented are hardly "common" and the opposite of "often".
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Old 01-08-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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Over 1/2 of our homicides are based upon domestic quarrels. arguments with neighbors, etc. Strict gun control laws will certainly help. There's a myth that career criminals are the ones committing all the murders.
LOL...yea....sure....it's not the gang bangers killing each other.......it's all domestic folks that do the majority of the killings....
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Old 01-08-2015, 09:17 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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LOL...yea....sure....it's not the gang bangers killing each other.......it's all domestic folks that do the majority of the killings....
Well then, we can fold up all those gang PD units. Think of the savings to tax payers!
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Old 01-08-2015, 09:23 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Over 1/2 of our homicides are based upon domestic quarrels. arguments with neighbors, etc. Strict gun control laws will certainly help. There's a myth that career criminals are the ones committing all the murders.
105 homicides in DC last year. How many were domestics? How many were quarelling neighbors? How many were by criminals? I don't know the figures but I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of homicides in DC last year were carried out by criminals. Care to bet?
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