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Old 01-05-2015, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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That is also a lie perpetrated by far lefties like Ward Churchill.
Are you trying to be funny?

Ever read, or heard of, Bartolomé de las Casas?

(Never mind, of course you haven't.)
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:43 PM
 
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I do not believe Christians are a persecuted minority; however, I believe that martyrdom is a deeply-ingrained part of Christian identity.
That is blaming the victim.
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Communist, atheist countries top them all. Look at the atheist dictators in the past and now.
Probably. These atheist dictators (if they really were atheist) recognized religion as a powerful adversary and challenger to their power. Logically, to eliminate said challenge you must eliminate said religion.

[the dictator becomes the religion]
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:47 PM
 
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So if Christians are the most persecuted religion in the Mideast and Christians are a majority in the US, why aren't all those American Christians seeking to help their religious brethren in the Mideast and bring them to the US as refugees?

Israel does that for Jews around the world.

Why don't American Christians help other Christians (aside from the Pope)? Seems like that would be the Christian thing to do. Is it because they would then be immigrants to the US? Doesn't fit the agenda?
You should ask Obama about that. He could help the Christians now in prisons in the Middle East in Pakistan and the countries who we are sending millions of dollars to but he is strangely silent.

As far as Christians helping, yes they are. They don't need to be brought here but the emigrants coming here now are not in danger of execution.
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:51 PM
 
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Actually slick I don't contribute to the threads about Islam as I have nothing to say that's any different from what I say about Christians and Jews: religion is socially accepted delusion and belief in an invisible sky daddy by any name is silly and childish. Religion is a stain upon the human race.
That attitude encourages persecutions against religious people.
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:54 PM
 
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The World's Most Persecuted Minority: Christians

Interesting and important video.
Are you trying to say that the persecution of Christians isn't justified

They deserve it for country music alone.
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:58 PM
 
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You should learn your history.

Christians used to burn people at the stake as witches and invade other nations the way ISIS does today - they were called The Crusades. Christians also came to America and other nations and slaughtered the indigenous people. Christian popes used to command armies and have opponents murdered.

Christianity has at least as bad a history as Islam does today; they're just a few hundred years ahead on the evolutionary scale.
That is a lie. This book tells the truth and clears up a lot of misconceptions.

http://www.amazon.com/Glory-Crusades...rious+crusades

"How can the Crusades be called glorious ? Our modern mindset says they were ugly wars of greed and religious intolerance a big reason why Christians and Muslims today can t coexist peacefully. Historian Steve Weidenkopf challenges this received narrative with The Glory of the Crusades. Drawing on the latest and most authentic medieval scholarship, he presents a compelling case for understanding the Crusades as they were when they happened: armed pilgrimages driven by a holy zeal to recover conquered Christian lands. Without whitewashing their failures and even crimes, he debunks the numerous myths about the Crusades that our secular culture uses as clubs to attack the Church. In place of these myths he offers men and women of faith and valor who pledged their lives for the honor of Christ s holy places. With a storyteller s gift, Weidenkopf relates the Crusades many dramas their heroes and villains, battles and sieges, intrigues and coincidences offering a vivid and engrossing account of events that, though centuries old, have profoundly affected the course of our world to the present day."
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:01 AM
 
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Oh spare me. You're so intent on the lib'rul boogeyman that you take a giant crap all over history. What a load of nonsense. This gets the prize for dumbest post on this thread. **** poor attempt at historical revisionism.

No, that would be Ward Churchill who is the revisionist. He did lose his job by being caught in lies.
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Christianity = sky fairy mumbo jumbo used to justify genocide for centuries. It used to be #1 with a bullet in this regard, but these days it has to settle for #2 spot.

Persecuted? Most ridiculous notion EVER.
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:05 AM
 
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Why do atheists have to come in when religion is the subject just to say you don't believe? Ok, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
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