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Old 01-07-2015, 12:18 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Thats a fallacy, if i call myself a dog,that doesnt make me one, but thats what you are arguing when you say millenials are post racial.

Self reporting is one of the worst forms of research/polling.

Now, that doesnt mean the majority arent " Post racial" (however you want to define that word), that however, doesnt mean racism no longer exist within this age group or that racism outside the group doesnt exist.




He is talking about by ignorance( meaning to not know), not being post racial.



NO, the term post "race industry" insinuates fabrication(Lies), as if the person writing the article isnt being genuine with their concerns, and that is a problem. It means you believe anyone who disagrees with you is lying and only doing so to further their own agenda, that means no one can even have an intelligent conversation with you because you just assume they are lying.

You furthered that argument by saying he was threatened by them being post racial. He isnt saying that at all. He is saying that he disagrees about the premise of what post racial is and if we are there.



The only thing the evidence showed was his blood in the car and that he turned towards the officer( charged is your word, not the word of the evidence), The evidence fits with both versions of the story, not just the officers, which negates your point.
The article references polling data indicating millennials are post-racial. I don't know if they are or not. I find it more interesting, and to my point, that the author is dismayed by this fact. He seems to assume it is true, based on the polls.

As to the Ferguson incident, the evidence was quite compelling supporting the officer's version of events. See the testimony of witness 10.

As to the race industry, statistics show that relatively few blacks are actually killed by police in total versus all black homicides, and of those fewer are found to be without legal justification. It doesn't diminish those for the families that experience them, but it is very much a fallacy to perpetuate a narrative that racist cops are out there killing blacks intentionally without cause simply because they are black - no matter what de Blasio told his son Dante.
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Old 01-07-2015, 12:31 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The article references polling data indicating millennials are post-racial. I don't know if they are or not. I find it more interesting, and to my point, that the author is dismayed by this fact. He seems to assume it is true, based on the polls.
The author agrees that millennials think they are post racial, He disagrees that they actually are because they simply dont understand racism as a whole.

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As to the Ferguson incident, the evidence was quite compelling supporting the officer's version of events. See the testimony of witness 10.
There were many witnesses, not a single one agreed with the other on every issue, the majority of the witnesses were split down the middle on every issue. You arguing in favor of the one witness who's testimony you most agree with does not make that witness right or negate the testimony of the 50 or so more witnesses that were present at the time.

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As to the race industry, statistics show that relatively few blacks are actually killed by police in total versus all black homicides, and of those fewer are found to be without legal justification. It doesn't diminish those for the families that experience them, but it is very much a fallacy to perpetuate a narrative that racist cops are out there killing blacks intentionally without cause simply because they are black - no matter what de Blasio told his son Dante.
the 2 statements in bold are meant to compliment one another but they have nothing to do with each other.

There being more black deaths by homicide has nothing to do with the fact that black people are killed by police officers.

And more black people being killed by someone other than a cop doesnt make it a fallacy that some black people are killed by cops who do their jobs wrong. And yes, i used that phrasing because not all cases of wrongful death are about race. Eric Gardner for example is just bad policing, not racism.
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Old 01-07-2015, 05:08 AM
 
Location: zooland 1
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Sure.. there are liberals on this board...
Living on social welfare ...smoking dope..and getting all kinds of assistance while I work to support them

Are there liberals on this board ....sure... I hold my nose and post while they attack anything I say... especially when I have good solid evidence of an activity or behavior ... liberals ultimately want the rest of us to tell them they are OK with their myopic view of the world... OK..liberals.. youre OK... now..please get out of the way while I actually do something
OK.. that's a simplistic view

The young people I teach and mentor are highly motivated and focused.. I don't waste my heartbeats on deadbeats...
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Old 01-07-2015, 08:47 AM
 
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As much as you like to hate young people in your post, while I don't believe this is anywhere approaching the civil rights movement, the attitude you had were the exact same as the counter-protestors, and it is extremely grating.
Whereas I find your attitude to be the one that is grating.
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Most of these protestors see legitimate injustices and try to act on them - the the right dismisses not only the protest, but literally every allegation of racism or police abuse.
Prove it.
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I think Michael Brown probably deserved to get shot, but ho can you justify the death of Eric Garner? Or the outpouring of support for any and every cop charged with a crime by most other cops?
So now officers supporting fellow officers constitutes "the right" dismissing literally every allegation of racism or police abuse?
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Or the hesitance to implement body cameras?
Use your head. Do you want a camera strapped to your body following everything you do? The hesitance to implement body cameras is just plain common sense. Someone signs up to be a police officer to enforce the law, not to have every second of every day recorded on video and analyzed. It's a repugnant concept no matter what a person's profession is.
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Most of these protestors see legitimate injustices and try to act on them
They're NOT legitimate injustices. The facts of the cases (Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, etc.) prove they're not legitimate injustices. All the protestors are seeing and stupidly falling for is the race-baiters' deceptively manipulative propaganda.
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I get the impression that the last thing the race industry wants is a post-racial America.
You are exactly correct. A post-racial America eliminates the rather large and lucrative race-baiting cottage industry.
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:29 AM
 
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They're NOT legitimate injustices. The facts of the cases (Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, etc.) prove they're not legitimate injustices. All the protestors are seeing and stupidly falling for is the race-baiters' deceptively manipulative propaganda.
^ This. When the protests started, it was about police brutality. Then it evolved to injustices perpetrated on blacks by the system. The names used to showcase this were Michael Brown, Tamir Rice and Eric Garner.
Now they are throwing in Travon Martin. WHAT? How is his name relevant to this cause?
He was not shot by police. He was shot by a civilian. The civilian was indicted and brought to court.
Just because these protesters did not like the outcome of the trial does not mean the system was unjust.
The system worked. For those of you that disagree I have another name for you..... OJ
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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the protesters obviously aren't wasting their time. they have the attention of millions of Americans, including you.
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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dont resist arrest and you wont get choked or shot...


simple concept that those with a low IQ cannot seem to grasp


"...Pants Up... Don't Loot ..."
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Old 01-07-2015, 06:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Do the young liberals think the "Black Lives Matter" protests/movement is the modern day civil rights?


No.

Black people have special rights and privileges, others do not receive from the federal, State and local governments.
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