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Old 01-07-2015, 07:07 AM
 
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We are in big trouble in Europe. Our leaders refuse to address our concerns, and call us racists if we speak out. It's like we're deliberately being led down the road to civil war. In the end, we will have to make a stand. If we don't, and Islam takes over Europe, then we will be enslaved, or murdered.

This is not fear mongering. Muslims have large families, and we have small. You don't need to be a math major to work out what's coming.
Obviously America and Europe together have to find a solution. The first step is to find the idiot who thought it was a good idea to allow these people to immigrate in and put him in prison.

And then start to deal with the problem.

You go to the Muslim leaders and you tell them if they don't bring every one of these to justice within a a few months the entire lot of them are expelled from the country. If they don't work diligently with police to prevent future attacks they are out. If they refuse to learn the language and assimilate into French culture they are out.

And then carry through brutally with the plan. No doubts, round them all up and transport them out of the country. It's survival.

 
Old 01-07-2015, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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There are a lot of weapons laying around in the US and like any country, there more than enough mentally unstable people to pick them up.

But Islam is something completely different. You can see that right? They are taught from childhood that killing an infidel (that means you and me) is good and a ticket to heaven.
I'm sure there are plenty of nutty beliefs in the Qu'ran, just as there are in the Bible and other religious texts. They're all nonsense IMO.

Having said that, there are 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide. 99.9% of them never have, or ever will, commit an atrocity like the one today, promises of heaven and 70 virgins or whatever notwithstanding.

The lack of perspective and scapegoating in this thread is off the charts.

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Originally Posted by English Dave View Post
We are in big trouble in Europe. Our leaders refuse to address our concerns, and call us racists if we speak out. It's like we're deliberately being led down the road to civil war. In the end, we will have to make a stand. If we don't, and Islam takes over Europe, then we will be enslaved, or murdered.

This is not fear mongering. Muslims have large families, and we have small. You don't need to be a math major to work out what's coming.
That's ALL your post is. Don't worry though, for the most part, you're preaching to the choir around here.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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If I was a leader of a Western country, I'd repudiate the Geneva conventions on refugees. The state will decide when and what refugees it decides to accept not the UN.

I'd ban all Muslim immigration and look seriously into deporting/expelling Muslim residents that are not nationals.

It's mind boggling to me that countries like Sweden actually want more Muslim migrants.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Islam does not condone murder, there are some that react to criticism of their religion with force. Painting an entire religion because of the reactions of a few makes no sense.

Islam does condone retribution and revenge though.
That newspaper slandered their prophet.


Islam and blasphemy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Where Sharia pertains, the penalties for blasphemy can include fines, imprisonment, flogging, amputation, hanging, or beheading
 
Old 01-07-2015, 07:10 AM
 
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Islam does not condone murder, there are some that react to criticism of their religion with force. Painting an entire religion because of the reactions of a few makes no sense.
Habibi, Islam is a cancer!
The reactions are motivated by Quranic teachings, how do you not ascribe the blame?
Unless of course you are an Islamist or a Muslim apologist.

The Qur'an:
Qur'an (33:57) - "Lo! those who malign Allah and His messenger, Allah hath cursed them in this world and the Hereafter, and hath prepared for them the doom of the disdained"

Qur'an (33:61) - [continues from above] "Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."

Qur'an (6:93) - "Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against Allah?" If the death penalty is prescribed for lesser crime, then it stands to reason that it should be imposed for the most "wicked".

From the Hadith:
Bukhari (59:369) - This recounts the murder of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, a Jewish poet who wrote verses about Muslims that Muhammad found insulting. He asked his followers, 'Who will rid me of this man?' and several volunteered. al-Ashraf was stabbed to death while fighting for his life.

Bukhari (4:241) - Those who mocked Muhammad at Mecca were killed after he had retaken the city and asserted his authority.

 
Old 01-07-2015, 07:14 AM
 
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I'm sure there are plenty of nutty beliefs in the Qu'ran, just as there are in the Bible and other religious texts. They're all nonsense IMO.

Having said that, there are 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide. 99.9% of them never have, or ever will, commit an atrocity like the one today, promises of heaven and 70 virgins or whatever notwithstanding.

The lack of perspective and scapegoating in this thread is off the charts.
And 100% of them do not fit in with western culture and their religion will continue to produce the small percentage of solders for Allah who are willing to commit to extreme violence.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 07:16 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Wouldn't be surprising if one or more of these jihadists had already been kicked out of a mosque and should have been on a watchlist or kicked out of the country.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Why do a few bad muslims have to ruin it for everyone else?

As another poster wrote: "It's not all muslims, but it's always a muslim."

That's gold Jerry... gold!
Because they are ALL animals.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 07:22 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Wouldn't be surprising if one or more of these jihadists had already been kicked out of a mosque and should have been on a watchlist or kicked out of the country.
Unlimited immigration with no way to tell who's the bad guy. Europe didn't learn from the US.
 
Old 01-07-2015, 07:23 AM
 
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That's a load of crap. Western Civilization is made up of a multitude people following many and no religions . These terrorists have nothing whatsoever to do with any religion.
Your as clueless as you are prolific.
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