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I'm with the Pubs on this. SS disability is horribly abused. Half the damn country is on it and many for conditions that are both preventable and reversible with lifestyle changes. Cut them off and clean up the fraud and waste. Get the fat azzes on a treadmill.
SS disability is horribly abused - if by horribly abused you mean its fairly rare, with 1 in 10 dying within 5 years of receiving it
half the damn country is on it - If by half the damn country you mean 4.6% of those 18-65
if by conditions that are both preventable and reversible you mean things like mental illness, cancer, etc
Could some be resolved by the ol treadmill? I have no idea. neither do you really, you just believe that I bet. got any evidence to back up that assertion?
SS disability is horribly abused - if by horribly abused you mean its fairly rare, with 1 in 10 dying within 5 years of receiving it
half the damn country is on it - If by half the damn country you mean 4.6% of those 18-65
if by conditions that are both preventable and reversible you mean things like mental illness, cancer, etc
Could some be resolved by the ol treadmill? I have no idea. neither do you really, you just believe that I bet. got any evidence to back up that assertion?
SSA has even said that abuse runs about 22%.
Yes America, Your Fellow Citizens DO Abuse Federal Aid Programs - Forbes
The sloppy process used to determine Social Security disability eligibility should alarm taxpayers given that the lifetime cost of each award averages $300,000. The life-time costs are so high because once on, few leave the program’s rolls. More than half of those matriculating from SSDI in 2011 left because they had reached full retirement age, and therefore transferred onto traditional Social Security benefits. Just 3.6 percent left because of medical improvement, and 6.1 percent returned to work.
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Even the progressive think tank, Center for American Progress, criticized SSDI for providing “strong incentives to applicants and beneficiaries to remain permanently out of the workforce.”
Yes America, Your Fellow Citizens DO Abuse Federal Aid Programs - Forbes
The sloppy process used to determine Social Security disability eligibility should alarm taxpayers given that the lifetime cost of each award averages $300,000. The life-time costs are so high because once on, few leave the program’s rolls. More than half of those matriculating from SSDI in 2011 left because they had reached full retirement age, and therefore transferred onto traditional Social Security benefits. Just 3.6 percent left because of medical improvement, and 6.1 percent returned to work.
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Even the progressive think tank, Center for American Progress, criticized SSDI for providing “strong incentives to applicants and beneficiaries to remain permanently out of the workforce.”
Sigh. Reading is fundamental.
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His committee examined 300 cases of Americans who were awarded Social Security disability benefits and determined that more than one quarter received benefits based on “insufficient, contradictory, or incomplete evidence.”
insufficient evidence does not mean fraud.
contradictory evidence does not mean fraud.
incomplete evidence does not mean fraud.
But of course you (and the article) state that its fraud or abuse.
I do agree about the criticism that there are strong disincentives to return to work, and would be all for ideas that fix that.
I know there is abuse, but some of the rules are stupid. I know a young man (35) who is totally blind. He worked about 60 hours a week for several years. When he started to lose his sight, he applied for help to go to an eye doctor. Medicaid turned him down for three years. As soon as he was totally blind, they gave him Medicaid and spent thousands trying to restore his sight. His doctor said that if he had treated him a few years ago, they probably could have saved his sight. Instead, he will be on Soc Sec disability and Medicaid for life. He would rather be working. It will cost far more to support him for the next 30 or so years than it would have to save his eyesight.
I know there is abuse, but some of the rules are stupid. I know a young man (35) who is totally blind. He worked about 60 hours a week for several years. When he started to lose his sight, he applied for help to go to an eye doctor. Medicaid turned him down for three years. As soon as he was totally blind, they gave him Medicaid and spent thousands trying to restore his sight. His doctor said that if he had treated him a few years ago, they probably could have saved his sight. Instead, he will be on Soc Sec disability and Medicaid for life. He would rather be working. It will cost far more to support him for the next 30 or so years than it would have to save his eyesight.
Sigh. This is more of a single pay argument then a social security discussion. As for seeing a dr....why didn't he see one when he started to lose his sight while working 60 hours a week?
Sigh. This is more of a single pay argument then a social security discussion. As for seeing a dr....why didn't he see one when he started to lose his sight while working 60 hours a week?
Go read the article I posted in the thread about 60% of Americans have no savings for repairs, etc.
People don't have savings and doctors won't treat you for free.
And the SSDI program is RAMPANT with fraud with so many people seeking this to tide them over .
Yes those on SSDI should get 20% cuts. Let them go look for a job instead.
To bad you aren't the one to go tell my brothers son who was half beaten to death,and confined to a wheelchair and has to wear a diaper that he has to take a 20% cut because he cannot work......
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