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Old 01-10-2015, 12:42 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Prison Planet.com » Cop Tases 76 Year Old Car Dealer For Driving Car With Expired Inspection Sticker

I think this officer needs to be decorated for his bravery and for laying his life on the line to bring this dangerous desperado to justice. He definitely used restraint and acted in a professional manor in the face of obvious danger.

That or this cop is an idiot and is a good example of whats wrong with LE today.

Your choice.
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Old 01-10-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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Old 01-10-2015, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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He has been fired. At 23 years old he has screwed up his career.
Victoria police officer fired after using Taser on 73-year-old man
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Old 01-10-2015, 01:06 PM
 
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He has been fired. At 23 years old he has screwed up his career.
Victoria police officer fired after using Taser on 73-year-old man
It notes that they are looking at filing criminal charges also. This one is a good example of how it should work. The officer must be held to the same innocent until proven guilty standard but it shouldn't take months and months to do that.

As noted here it took somewhere around a month to make a determination and fire him. Now hopefully we won't find out that another force has hired him.
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Old 01-10-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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Prison Planet.com » Cop Tases 76 Year Old Car Dealer For Driving Car With Expired Inspection Sticker

I think this officer needs to be decorated for his bravery and for laying his life on the line to bring this dangerous desperado to justice. He definitely used restraint and acted in a professional manor in the face of obvious danger.

That or this cop is an idiot and is a good example of whats wrong with LE today.

Your choice.
Yep, all cops are just like this....therefore....all cops are bad...your choice...

Of course...

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"On behalf of the Covington Police Department and an anonymous Secret Santa, here's $100," Spinks told Williams and other drivers before they drove away from his traffic stop. "Merry Christmas."
There goes your theory.....

Covington police give drivers $100 bills instead of traffic citations thanks to 'Secret Santa' | NOLA.com
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Old 01-10-2015, 02:19 PM
 
Location: zooland 1
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It notes that they are looking at filing criminal charges also. This one is a good example of how it should work. The officer must be held to the same innocent until proven guilty standard but it shouldn't take months and months to do that.

As noted here it took somewhere around a month to make a determination and fire him. Now hopefully we won't find out that another force has hired him.
I saw some huge tactical errors which I would not have taught to any of my trainees... while I won't disclose them here let's say the mistakes happened before the traffic stop started and continued to the unnecessary ending

This ex officer will never pass another background and will never see a job as an Leo... I would be interested in his academy training .. his on the job training ..and how his fto educated him. Some small departments have very short training programs because of budget
There will be a successful lawsuit and settlement...As there should be

Whatever anyone wants to say here... this is a rare incident... in the hundreds of thousands of traffic stops we successfully conclude every day

We lose our jobs and freedom over bad decisions.. as it should be
In this case I would see the prosecutor electing to charge him... and a jury convicting him...if he is found guilty

As far as him not being fired quickly enough for you there's lots of factors for that ... due process being a major one so he can be legally fired.. he was off the street and even if on paid admin leave would have to repay any salary once found guilty... from what I can tell the department acted appropriately and quickly

If you are found guilty tomorrow will you lose everything ?... I doubt it...
This guy will be pumping your gas after he gets to do time in county jail...

The op has shown an agenda...
I could easily post.. citizen seriously injures police officer ... which happens many times a day

Doesn't quite have the same jazzy snap does it....

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Old 01-10-2015, 03:05 PM
 
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I saw some huge tactical errors which I would not have taught to any of my trainees... while I won't disclose them here let's say the mistakes happened before the traffic stop started and continued to the unnecessary ending

This ex officer will never pass another background and will never see a job as an Leo... I would be interested in his academy training .. his on the job training ..and how his fto educated him. Some small departments have very short training programs because of budget
There will be a successful lawsuit and settlement...As there should be
The officer that shot the kid in Cleveland had been previously in the process of being fired and deemed not suitable for a police officer.

Cleveland officer who killed Tamir Rice had been deemed unfit for duty - LA Times

This is a part of the problem though, police officers allowed to simply resign as opposed to having the process completed. I understand that most systems probably does it right as you point out and I've noted that in this case it seems they have handled this correctly but Cleveland after hiring someone they shouldn't have doubled down on stupid.

Mayor Frank Jackson will not swear-in former East Cleveland cop who lost job for excessive force | cleveland.com

This one had even been fired.

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Whatever anyone wants to say here... this is a rare incident... in the hundreds of thousands of traffic stops we successfully conclude every day
I have noted that the thousands of successful interactions a day between the police and citizens don't make the news but that doesn't excuse those that do screw up. Granted you are not trying and say any different.

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We lose our jobs and freedom over bad decisions.. as it should be
In this case I would see the prosecutor electing to charge him... and a jury convicting him...if he is found guilty

As far as him not being fired quickly enough for you there's lots of factors for that ... due process being a major one so he can be legally fired.. he was off the street and even if on paid admin leave would have to repay any salary once found guilty... from what I can tell the department acted appropriately and quickly
Read what I said again. I said the process seemed to have worked pretty efficiently here unlike other situations. I said that even this officer was innocent until proven guilty.

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If you are found guilty tomorrow will you lose everything ?... I doubt it...
This guy will be pumping your gas after he gets to do time in county jail...

The op has shown an agenda...
I could easily post.. citizen seriously injures police officer ... which happens many times a day

Doesn't quite have the same jazzy snap does it....
He will probably get hired as a mall security guard. I do not disagree that cases like this do not paint all officers as bad.
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Old 01-10-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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If this perp hadn't violated the law he wouldn't have found himself under arrest in the first place.

Then he made it worse by choosing to resist arrest.
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Old 01-10-2015, 03:20 PM
 
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If this perp hadn't violated the law he wouldn't have found himself under arrest in the first place.

Then he made it worse by choosing to resist arrest.
Yet everyone violates multiple laws in the course of their day. This includes you (and ironically every cop)and because of that you have no moral high ground from which to preach.
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Old 01-10-2015, 04:22 PM
 
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If this perp hadn't violated the law he wouldn't have found himself under arrest in the first place.

Then he made it worse by choosing to resist arrest.
This 73 year old "perp" hadn't violated any laws and there was no reason to arrest or lay hands on him.
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