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Old 01-12-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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Yoiu're the one blathering on about how good the poor have it. So, become poor then if it's so great.
If it's so bad do something to get out of poverty. Now there's an idea! or are you expecting wealth to be handed to you?
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Old 01-12-2015, 05:59 PM
 
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Learn the difference between High Income and Rich (wealthy). Believe me, if you are high income, learn tax law and get tax advise, if you don't government will taketh away as much as they can, making it more difficult to build "wealth".

I still laugh at the flaming liberal guy I know who constantly complains that he will have to work until the day he died but then spouting all kinds of liberal rants, saying he should pay more in taxes. To each his own lol

Actually I consider High Income to be Rich; I make a distinction between Rich and Wealthy. Wealth is a reserve of resources which ca be drawn upon when Income is no longer sufficient to sustain a person.
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Old 01-12-2015, 06:08 PM
 
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A LIBERAL IS JUST A CONSERVATIVE WHO HAS NOT BEEN ROBBED YET

Once your robbed you can't go back.
Not necessarily.......

Some are too dumb to see the real world as it is.
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Old 01-12-2015, 06:13 PM
 
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I'd like to see some of the folks who claim that $450K is rich try to get by on $37,500 a month after taxes.
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Old 01-12-2015, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, Austin, Texas
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Writer H.P. Lovecraft went from being a conservative to a FDR/New Deal supporter:

Grim Reviews: The Political Transition of Howard Philips Lovecraft
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Old 01-12-2015, 07:45 PM
 
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Actually I consider High Income to be Rich; I make a distinction between Rich and Wealthy. Wealth is a reserve of resources which ca be drawn upon when Income is no longer sufficient to sustain a person.
Tax that high income and you have a hard time building that reserve. And just because someone made $400k one year they may not the next. Someone can make a high income but not be rich (wealthy). As long as you don't understand that, even if you get a boatload of money you'll always be poor. But go ahead, being that you make $400k, you should know what you are talking about.
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Old 01-12-2015, 08:08 PM
 
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The personal median income in 2012 was $26,989 - per year.

If you're struggling to make ends meet on $450K/year, you're a complete idiot with money.
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Why shouldn't these people reap some benefit for their hard work. Because you want some of it without putting forth the same effort as they did? Who is anyone, with their hands in the government tax payer funded till to pass judgement on anyone?

Of course when you get free stuff and subsidies while the 1% pays full price for everything and gets fleeced its easy to pass judgment and mouth off.
You appear to be having a spirited conversation with - well, not with me, at any rate. Not sure whom.

My tax bracket is quite high, thankyouverymuch, and I have yet to see a single red cent from "the government tax payer funded till". Not that I am unhappy about the services I receive - paved roads with streetlights, courts, fire departments, reasonably non-corrupt police and the knowledge that people may be stupid, unfortunate or perhaps simply burdened down by bad choices - but they still have a fair chance of a roof over their heads and some grub in their belly.
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Old 01-12-2015, 08:12 PM
 
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I'd like to see some of the folks who claim that $450K is rich try to get by on $37,500 a month after taxes.
I'd like to see some of those who claim it's "hard to make ends meet" on 37.5K/month try to get by on $37,500/year, which happens to be the far more common situation.
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Old 01-12-2015, 08:30 PM
 
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If you're struggling to make ends meet on $450K/year, you're a complete idiot with money.
Come to think of it, I did have an acquaintance who absolutely struggled to get by on a good deal more than that. And he was indeed a complete nincompoop in money matters.

(I fondly remember him when the writing was on the wall - as in, "change your ways or end up broke in a year". He was so very proud of his economic good sense when he took the drastic measure of swapping his $160,000 Lexus for a modest $90,000 one. Which, by the way, his girlfriend/sometime fiancee took as a parting gift. Ah, memories.)
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Old 01-12-2015, 08:58 PM
 
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The fastest way to convert a conservative to liberalism is to give the conservative a lobotomy...
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