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Old 06-04-2017, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I'm sympathetic to American Muslims because ignorant people are targeting some of the them.

NO sympathy for Muslims coming from other countries. Pew Research has done surveys and a majority of those not involved in ISIS are ISIS sympathizers.

In 2017, there have been approximately 500 global terrorist attacks with 3,500 fatalities. We have enough problems without inviting that mess into the country.
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Old 06-04-2017, 01:44 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default The Devil's in the details

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Seems to go along with their common enemy, the Jews, then the Western democracies.

The Natioal SOCIALISTS in Germany also worked with the Muslims to exterminate the Jews. Seems common among Socialists
Yah. If you mean the Nazis, yes, Socialist was part of their name. If they were serious about including the name, they must have meant socialism for Aryans (whatever that means) & their chosen military/political allies. In practical terms, their ideology was robbery, intimidation, assault, murder, on an industrial scale. The Nazi elites tended to hang onto Jewish riches for themselves & their cronies, though - jewelry, art, musical instruments & so on - the opposite of socialism, as I understand it.

They finagled & shot their way into power, & promptly decided to hurl themselves & all of humanity they could reach, over the cliff into the abyss. Yep, they needed allies against the West & eventually against the USSR - they recruited the fiercest Islamics they could find, in hopes that Islam would war on the Jewish population in the Middle East & so complicate the UK's foreign policy & then war aims.

Do all Socialists war against the Jews? I don't think so - in the first place, the original state of Israel (in 1948CE) was itself largely Socialist. So the notion that being Socialist makes you anti-Jewish doesn't hold water. Also, several of the Social Democracies in N. Europe in the 1930s & during WWII defended their Jewish populations against the Nazis. So again, it's not a question of Socialist versus Jews.
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Old 06-04-2017, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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That's not the religion's fault. That's due to the power-crazy psychos who use religion for the sole desperate purpose of control. Throughout history, people have done terrible things in the name of Christianity -- even the Bible seems to condone things that nowadays would seem horrifically barbaric.

Nowadays, Christians have greatly mellowed out as their lands became more stable. Right now, Islam is at that 'crusades' stage. It's not because Muslims are innately less 'evolved', it's because they tend to live in unstable countries. And typically countries where the wealth disparity is stark and socioeconomic mobility virtually non-existent. The powerful few at the top in those countries don't want citizens to revolt against them, so they instill in the 'commoners' that the West/infidels are to blame for their problems. This is what breeds the extremists, and unfortunately attitudes can spread like wildfire.

That's why I don't agree with directing all the anger to all Muslims, and especially not to Islam itself. Islam and Christianity are both Abrahamic religions that can either be practiced privately/sanely or used as a veneer for aggression and control. What I would really place the blame on is the source of that aggression and control -- the unapologetically greedy monarchs and elite.
Ohhhh...so the Ayatollah's and Imam's and others are all spreading love and telling the psycho's to stop killing innocent people?
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:00 PM
 
Location: USA
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I am a Christian-- and that's why I do NOT like to see them demonized - - Jesus didn't
Jesus didn't but when your ideal man is a Pediphile, Murderer, and Slaver it's pretty easy to demonize Muhammad. I only demonize Muslims that practice Islam as Muhammad did
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:04 PM
 
Location: USA
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Ohhhh...so the Ayatollah's and Imam's and others are all spreading love and telling the psycho's to stop killing innocent people?
I'm waiting for and Iman or an Ayatollah to wash and kiss my Atheist feet like the Pope did for Muslim Immigrants
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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Liberals in general have a bleeding-heart mentality. They'll throw a pitty party for anything they see as being a victim.

Career criminals, radical islam, pit bulls etc.......liberals tend to root for the underdog regardless of the risks involved because generalizing is actually seen as being worse than the consequences of lacking common sense to most liberals/thread
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Old 06-04-2017, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I'm waiting for and Iman or an Ayatollah to wash and kiss my Atheist feet like the Pope did for Muslim Immigrants
Yeah, I hope you're not holding your breath.

All that inbreeding, the drugs, the inculcation of hate from their religious leaders and teaching that killing is honoring Allah - what do people expect to come out of those countries?

I have nothing against the Muslims here who have settled in nicely and are contributing members of society. It's that specific breed that is causing havoc globally that I'm not in favor of.

But the naysayers either aren't educated on what's going on in the world, or they simply don't care.

Or both.
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