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Old 01-14-2015, 10:51 AM
 
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The title of the thread is an assertion that ISIS/ISIL equals all Islam.
Another fail.

Here is the title - ISIS? ISIL Does Not Equal Islam?

The OP is clearly stating that the adminstration keeps trying to pretend that ISIS/ISIL has nothing to do with Islam. This is a complete and total lie. ISIS/ISIL is a group that has Islam as a core component and it even stands for Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

You can keep strapping antlers to your dog, but that doesn't make him a deer, and pretending that ISIS/ISIL is not about Islam is just as practical.
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:51 AM
 
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For the most part extremists do not act out on their beliefs violently, but when they do, we call them terrorists.

Notice the relationship?
You just learned me a thing.
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:52 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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It doesn't matter if their actions aren't comparable.

The thread posits that ISIS represents all of Islam.

And the point that one group of extremists does not represent all of a religion is perfectly valid.
Nice try at deflection, again. The thread posits that in this organization, only Islam is allowed to exist. Just the other religions in the territories taken over by IS how well tolerated their religion is.

But thank you for the attempt to parse my words and thoughts. I don't need it from you or your fellow blind followers who forgive anything but self defense.
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:52 AM
 
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Which president said that Islam is a "religion of peace."

Think hard.
Obama: "Islam Is A Religion That Preaches Peace" | Video | RealClearPolitics
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:52 AM
 
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Another fail.

Here is the title - ISIS? ISIL Does Not Equal Islam?

The OP is clearly stating that the adminstration keeps trying to pretend that ISIS/ISIL has nothing to do with Islam. This is a complete and total lie. ISIS/ISIL is a group that has Islam as a core component and it even stands for Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.

You can keep strapping antlers to your dog, but that doesn't make him a deer, and pretending that ISIS/ISIL is not about Islam is just as practical.
You just proved his point for him .
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:53 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It did not! I don't know what you read, but the Boston Bombing is not listed as one of the ten in that link.

10 of the Worst Terror Attacks by Extreme Christians
"Far-right white male radicals and extreme Christianists are every bit as capable of acts of terrorism as radical Islamists, and to pretend that such terrorists don’t exist does the public a huge disservice. Dzhokhar Anzorovich Tsarnaev and the late Tamerlan Anzorovich Tsarnaev (the Chechen brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombing of April 15, 2013) are both considered white..."

It appears that the article is not about christian extremists but rather "white" extremists. This thread is about religion, not race.
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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"Far-right white male radicals and extreme Christianists are every bit as capable of acts of terrorism as radical Islamists, and to pretend that such terrorists don’t exist does the public a huge disservice. Dzhokhar Anzorovich Tsarnaev and the late Tamerlan Anzorovich Tsarnaev (the Chechen brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombing of April 15, 2013) are both considered white..."
Both were muslims dear :-P.
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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No one is comparing the acts of one to the other.

The comparison is whether both groups represent ALL of a religion, or not.
Not really. The two were compared (not by me) as being the same degree of evil. They are both evil but the degree of evil is vastly different. Unless your bigotry tells you differently.
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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Statement by the President on ISIL | The White House

My fellow Americans, tonight I want to speak to you about what the United States will do with our friends and allies to degrade and ultimately destroy the terrorist group known as ISIL.
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Still, we continue to face a terrorist threat. We can’t erase every trace of evil from the world, and small groups of killers have the capacity to do great harm. That was the case before 9/11, and that remains true today. And that’s why we must remain vigilant as threats emerge. At this moment, the greatest threats come from the Middle East and North Africa, where radical groups exploit grievances for their own gain. And one of those groups is ISIL -- which calls itself the “Islamic State.”


Now let’s make two things clear: ISIL is not “Islamic.” No religion condones the killing of innocents. And the vast majority of ISIL’s victims have been Muslim. And ISIL is certainly not a state. It was formerly al Qaeda’s affiliate in Iraq, and has taken advantage of sectarian strife and Syria’s civil war to gain territory on both sides of the Iraq-Syrian border. It is recognized by no government, nor by the people it subjugates. ISIL is a terrorist organization, pure and simple. And it has no vision other than the slaughter of all who stand in its way.
And yet Obama will not name any attack carried out by them as a Islamic terrorist activity.

I can see why you worship Obama.

And a repeat of the question: What exactly doe the *I* in their self declared name stand for?
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Old 01-14-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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Think harder.

"Islam is Peace" Says President
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