Rabbi calls for armed Jews in Europe. (conspiracy, racist, government)
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Would French Jews rather re-live the 1930s? But, who are these attacking? Why are they being attacked? For their allegiance to specific land, and disregard for others (perceived or otherwise)?
Good lord.
The need for Israel to exist is proven right here.
Anti-semitism will always be alive no matter what and the only people Jews can rely on to help them is clearly themselves.
There might be more liberals, and liberal ideas are better implemented. However, you can never have a society without messy creatures, the right wingers.
Many, for example, are assuming that the attacks against Jews are all coming from Muslims. Nope, probably a fraction of it. Most are likely from right wing extremists. All societies have liberals and conservatives. The proportions and strengths varies. In religion driven societies, for example, conservatives seem to be a lot more vocal (a reason why middle east is such a mess). Where religion majority is calmer, more liberal voices show up.
The Left definitely hates the Jews and Israel more than the right.
Your posts are shining proof of that. I above quoted your earlier post sneakily justifying anti-Semitic attacks in France because Jews apparently have more allegiance to Israel than anywhere see and their bad behaviors (please, explain, I'd like to know).
If you're so tolerant as liberals love to claim, you'd condemn anti-Semitism. Never seen them do that.
Rabbi Menachem Margolin is a Hasidic Jew, who represents nothing. He is part of the Jews that represent lass than 10% of the Jews. His sect doesn't even consider the other 90% of Jews as Jews.
The Left definitely hates the Jews and Israel more than the right.
This comment holds true in the United States paradigm of Right Wing = Conservative = Christian = Fundamentalist = Bible = Jews = ISRAEL!! equation, but 'right wing' means something entirely different in Europe than it does here.
Rabbi Menachem Margolin is a Hasidic Jew, who represents nothing. He is part of the Jews that represent lass than 10% of the Jews. His sect doesn't even consider the other 90% of Jews as Jews.
Figured as much.
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Originally Posted by Ih2puo
Every Jew in the world should move to Jerusalem now.
You plan to move back to the land of your ancestors?
What??? That is the most moronic thing I have ever read, especially when put into historical context regarding Jews and liberalism.
Just because most liberals are against the right-wing Government currently in power in Israel (including many citizens of Israel-some studies even show a majority being against Netanyahu), and are against needless warfare and genocide doesn't mean anyone hates Israel or Jewish people.
Not necessarily true.
We first must examine the context of what is considered right wing in Israel? Netanyahu is a very cautious leader and if he applied European or American morality against the Palestinians, Palestine would of ceased to exist decades ago.
So the essence of Zionism In Israel seeks an active role for a peaceful existence with its neighbors, and is willing to make compromises to make this happen. The settlement issue is a non starter, as the conflict occurred prior to the 1967 day war when Jewish settlements (now cities) were created. The ideology of Jewish settlements is correcting an historical wrong, from ethnically cleansing the Jewish inhabitants in the area in the first place.
The liberal left continues to ignore the situation for what it is. A terrorist organization that has taken over the Gaza Strip and uses Gaza as a platform to continue an armed struggle against Israel. The Palestinian Authority who really has no power in the strip, is a wolf in sheep's clothing and a unfaithful negotiator for peace. Instead of the liberal left condemning Hamas and Palestinian leadership for its horrific treatment of its civilians, they blame Israel as a non starter for the preemptive actions of the Palestinians. If they truly cared for the Palestinian cause, they would want Hamas removed from the strip with aspirations of a secular leader moving forward towards statecraft.
But the truth remains is that a Palestinian state would mean that its leadership would no longer receiver billions of dollars of free aid. The Palestinians would then have to work for a living, defy its Arab neighbors in an armed struggle against Israel and would be financially, politically and morally responsible for their actions. The liberals do not understand this, and continue pretending that retracting Israeli artificial borders will solve a 6 decade conflict overnight.
Well, that would be convenient for the time when Iran goes nuclear, wouldn't it?
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Originally Posted by BMoreJuice
Not necessarily true.
We first must examine the context of what is considered right wing in Israel? Netanyahu is a very cautious leader and if he applied European or American morality against the Palestinians, Palestine would of ceased to exist decades ago.
So the essence of Zionism In Israel seeks an active role for a peaceful existence with its neighbors, and is willing to make compromises to make this happen. The settlement issue is a non starter, as the conflict occurred prior to the 1967 day war when Jewish settlements (now cities) were created. The ideology of Jewish settlements is correcting an historical wrong, from ethnically cleansing the Jewish inhabitants in the area in the first place.
The liberal left continues to ignore the situation for what it is. A terrorist organization that has taken over the Gaza Strip and uses Gaza as a platform to continue an armed struggle against Israel. The Palestinian Authority who really has no power in the strip, is a wolf in sheep's clothing and a unfaithful negotiator for peace. Instead of the liberal left condemning Hamas and Palestinian leadership for its horrific treatment of its civilians, they blame Israel as a non starter for the preemptive actions of the Palestinians. If they truly cared for the Palestinian cause, they would want Hamas removed from the strip with aspirations of a secular leader moving forward towards statecraft.
But the truth remains is that a Palestinian state would mean that its leadership would no longer receiver billions of dollars of free aid. The Palestinians would then have to work for a living, defy its Arab neighbors in an armed struggle against Israel and would be financially, politically and morally responsible for their actions. The liberals do not understand this, and continue pretending that retracting Israeli artificial borders will solve a 6 decade conflict overnight.
Maaaaaaaaan....you guys have bought it all...lock, stock and barrel.
Maaaaaaaaan....you guys have bought it all...lock, stock and barrel.
I don't understand your comment?
Last edited by Ibginnie; 01-17-2015 at 04:23 PM..
Reason: off topic
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