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Old 01-18-2015, 10:52 AM
 
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by the 90%'s ceaseless pursuit of violent crime, gangs, abuse of social service, overall disreputable behavior, and general inability to act civilized.
This is a bold face lie. A majority of the Black population isn't even involved of any of that. And until you can come up with empirical data that at least a majority of the Black population is involved in all of that, your statement will remain a boldface lie. And people who lie lose all credibility. You said 90% of all Blacks are involved in all of that stuff. Burden of proof is on YOU.
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:29 PM
 
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How many "bangers" are there in America though?
Enough to account for approx 75% of all homicides.
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:34 PM
 
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Enough to account for approx 75% of all homicides.
And there were around 12,000 homicides last year. BTW, half of those homicides are committed by Blacks against other Blacks. That takes it down to about 6,000 bangers. There are 40 million Blacks in the USA.
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:12 PM
 
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When blacks commit crime its because the white man has forced them to do it, its not their fault. LMAO Well that is what the idiot liberal will tell you. Liberals never learn that when you put one race above another like they do with blacks and brown they perpetuate racism. Liberals are educated stupid people for the most part that do the only thing they can, teach stupidity to other oatmeal brained kids to try to make them educated stupid people that will vote and act like themselves.
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:15 PM
 
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When blacks commit crime its because the white man has forced them to do it, its not their fault. LMAO Well that is what the idiot liberal will tell you. Liberals never learn that when you put one race above another like they do with blacks and brown they perpetuate racism. Liberals are educated stupid people for the most part that do the only thing they can, teach stupidity to other oatmeal brained kids to try to make them educated stupid people that will vote and act like themselves.
Since when did anyone say Whites forced Blacks to commit crimes?
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:16 PM
 
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I can understand bad parents and bad choices being major issues, but I have to call out what you said about Black culture.

Jazz, R&B, Gospel, Juneteeth, Richard Wright, Ralph Ellison, Cornel West, Tavis Smiley, Dr. Ben Carson, they are all part of Black culture, and they aren't the downfall. I disagree with the idea that Black culture as a whole is the problem, because it throws many good things under the bus. I call out specifically the elements the cause the problems. The gangs, the "acting white" insult, and the "entitlement", that is all the underclass segment of the Black population. I make a distinction between Black culture and the underclass segment of the Black population. In fact, if you look at it, underclass "ghetto hood rat" culture, is essentially "redneck" culture transplanted to the cities.
I agree there is a lot more to black culture than thug life. But the problem is young black men. Do most young black men really care about jazz, gospel, juneteeth, Richard Wright, Ralph Ellison, Cornel West, Tavis Smiley or Dr. Ben Carson? Some might but most wont. Young boys want to act and look cool. And the coolest thing for them is acting "baller" and emulating "gangstas". They all don't become thugs but they sure support it and look up to that as cool.
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:52 PM
 
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I agree there is a lot more to black culture than thug life. But the problem is young black men. Do most young black men really care about jazz, gospel, juneteeth, Richard Wright, Ralph Ellison, Cornel West, Tavis Smiley or Dr. Ben Carson? Some might but most wont. Young boys want to act and look cool. And the coolest thing for them is acting "baller" and emulating "gangstas". They all don't become thugs but they sure support it and look up to that as cool.
Actually, the problem has alot to do with those within the underclass segment of the Black population, many of whom are young men. It is the underclass segment of young Black men committing the murders. And there are about 6,000 murders committed by young Black men last year, mostly against other Black men. And you can't blame the young men alone for this. Who is raising those particular young Black men to be that way? Or better yet, who ISN'T raising them properly? Most likely, those men committing the murders grow up with no man in the house, just a single mother. In many cases, the mother doesn't know who the father of the child is.

Go to a Juneteenth celebration and tell me there aren't young Black men there?

And can you prove most young Black men have no idea who those said persons are? How many young Black men are you around? Where are you when you are around them?

And about the "baller" stuff. Why is it that young White males can emulate that stuff without killing each other. Last I checked, young suburban Whites buy more gangster rap music than any other demographic, but it's mostly Black men murdering each other. And even with young Black men pretending to be "ballers", most don't kill each other. The problem rests with the underclass segment of the Black population. It is the underclass culture that is the big problem. How hard is that to understand?
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Old 01-19-2015, 01:49 AM
 
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Actually, the problem has alot to do with those within the underclass segment of the Black population, many of whom are young men. It is the underclass segment of young Black men committing the murders. And there are about 6,000 murders committed by young Black men last year, mostly against other Black men. And you can't blame the young men alone for this. Who is raising those particular young Black men to be that way? Or better yet, who ISN'T raising them properly? Most likely, those men committing the murders grow up with no man in the house, just a single mother. In many cases, the mother doesn't know who the father of the child is.

Go to a Juneteenth celebration and tell me there aren't young Black men there?

And can you prove most young Black men have no idea who those said persons are? How many young Black men are you around? Where are you when you are around them?

And about the "baller" stuff. Why is it that young White males can emulate that stuff without killing each other. Last I checked, young suburban Whites buy more gangster rap music than any other demographic, but it's mostly Black men murdering each other. And even with young Black men pretending to be "ballers", most don't kill each other. The problem rests with the underclass segment of the Black population. It is the underclass culture that is the big problem. How hard is that to understand?
I'm not disagreeing with you. The bad "thug" culture is coming from the underclass. But that bad culture makes the most noise and is not beat back by the law abiding people. That "thug" attitude is almost held up with admiration not with just black people but also whites and Hispanics. America has a long history of romanticizing outlaws and violence and that needs to stop now. Look at Japans culture. 10 times less the murder rate than America. If you murder someone in japan and you get out of prison your family will disown you, you are dead to them. Japans culture shames criminals and we need to start doing that.
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:51 AM
 
Location: StlNoco Mo, where the woodbine twineth
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East St.Louis always gets mentioned in these St.Louis threads. Some people forget that they are in two different states. Illinois is the biological father of East St.Louis but after years of neglect and abuse good hearted Missouri,acting like a stepdad took it under it's wing,we even gave it the name East St.Louis. It was originally called Illinoistown but it didn't want to share the name of it's deadbeat dad.
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