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In my opinion if you enter someone's home or place of business brandishing a firearm you are asking for trouble. It would have been the same no matter who the robbers were.
After many spirited discussions on this forum about self defense, this story becomes very relevant. Even with the deck stacked against the store clerk he was able to save himself and thwart a robbery and who knows how many future robberies from a group with multiple priors of robbery.
The four assailants entered Ryan’s Liquor at around 10:30 p.m. on Tuesday, according to the Tulsa World. One of the men, 27-year-old Brian Powell, pulled out a handgun and fired a shot upon entrance and demanded money.
But the store clerk did not comply. Instead, he pulled out a semi-automatic pistol and fired it, hitting and killing Powell and 16-year-old Kevin Dobbs.
Here is another successful self defense story.....
"She arrived at the location and a male began approaching the vehicle she thought was there to pick up the pizza," Capt. Stephen Fore with the DeKalb County Police Department said. "When he got to her he produced a handgun and forced her out of the vehicle and on to the ground."
Fore said she had her own handgun in her pocket and was able to reach for it and shoot the suspect.
Someone found 24-year-old Donquaz Stevenson in a nearby yard suffering from a gunshot wound to his face area after being shot by the delivery driver.
Detectives tell Channel 2’s Ryan Young a second suspect jumped into the pizza driver’s silver 2000 Honda Accord and is still on the run.
Police think the pizza delivery may have been a setup from the start.
Notice how there is a lack of the anti gun crowd in these threads when a firearm is used for good. Had this thread been about some whacko that shot up someplace we would have the usual suspects in here screaming about how evil guns are and they should be eliminated.
A 16 year old and 17 year old out committing armed robbery. Where the **** are the parents?
Well, lets see.. Since morals has been systematically legislated out of our society and to discipline our kids has become a criminal offense with perpetrators never having to face responsibility for their actions because of pseudo psychology protecting their actions with some lame excuse. In essence since the moral values, God and all that is right and wrong has been perverted by our society, why should we even wonder when kids go bad?
Notice how there is a lack of the anti gun crowd in these threads when a firearm is used for good. Had this thread been about some whacko that shot up someplace we would have the usual suspects in here screaming about how evil guns are and they should be eliminated.
I would say it works both ways. You rarely hear the pro gun crowd say much when a child is killed by an unsecured firearm or when some knothead's gun goes off when he sits down on the potty.
I would say it works both ways. You rarely hear the pro gun crowd say much when a child is killed by an unsecured firearm or when some knothead's gun goes off when he sits down on the potty.
Is that why the mom in walmart who was killed by her child has over 1200 replies?
I would say it works both ways. You rarely hear the pro gun crowd say much when a child is killed by an unsecured firearm or when some knothead's gun goes off when he sits down on the potty.
Thats not true.... the woman shot in Walmart by he child thread has produced over 130 pages of debate.
After many spirited discussions on this forum about self defense, this story becomes very relevant. Even with the deck stacked against the store clerk he was able to save himself and thwart a robbery and who knows how many future robberies from a group with multiple priors of robbery.
The four assailants entered Ryan’s Liquor at around 10:30 p.m. on Tuesday, according to the Tulsa World. One of the men, 27-year-old Brian Powell, pulled out a handgun and fired a shot upon entrance and demanded money.
But the store clerk did not comply. Instead, he pulled out a semi-automatic pistol and fired it, hitting and killing Powell and 16-year-old Kevin Dobbs.
So if that gun was registered in a federal database under the owner's name, how would that have negated his ability to do this?
I would say it works both ways. You rarely hear the pro gun crowd say much when a child is killed by an unsecured firearm or when some knothead's gun goes off when he sits down on the potty.
I disagree. Many pro firearms people have replied to threads like that with logical answers to the emotional questions that at thrown out by the anti crowd. Many pro people blame the idiots that leave an unsecured firearm around children or blame the idiots that negligently shoot themselves or others.
So if that gun was registered in a federal database under the owner's name, how would that have negated his ability to do this?
I'm sure it was registered , as is every handgun legally purchased. If it wasn't he was breaking the law.
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