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I agree for the most part. It's all about culture, etc. to me also. Some diversity is ok but today we have certain groups that are starting to overwhelm the majority and changing the demographics of this country. A lot of it has to do with illegal immigration.
I don't see it here. I know first and second generation. When the illegals began coming in the eighties, I would have agreed with you. But the second generation are the same as you and me. Many don't speak Spanish. Don't know what it's like by you, but Hispanics have been assimilating in northern Nevada.
Extreme racism and bigotry (inherent in most modern day right-wingers) can lead to atrocities. That is a less a knock on diversity and more a knock on bigotry. It is the most despicable of all human traits.
You evaded the question. How did diversity work out for Native Americans?
I don't see it here. I know first and second generation. When the illegals began coming in the eighties, I would have agreed with you. But the second generation are the same as you and me. Many don't speak Spanish. Don't know what it's like by you, but Hispanics have been assimilating in northern Nevada.
Statistics show hispanics have been assimilating as fast or faster than prior immigrant groups. Most third generation hispanics cannot speak spanish fluently if at all.
Statistics show hispanics have been assimilating as fast or faster than prior immigrant groups. Most third generation hispanics cannot speak spanish fluently if at all.
You evaded the question. How did diversity work out for Native Americans?
We embraced the diversity at first. When the fatal differences arose, it wasn't because of them being different, it was because of their actions towards us and the land. It was their actions, not the fact that they were different.
To believe that diversity by it's own right will destroy a culture is a falsehood and a paranoid delusion. All humanity is based on diversity, change and cultural evolution. We evolve, we mix, we change as a species. No one culture has a lock on the direction of how humanity proceeds into the future.
I have often thought, what a foreigner not familiar with the USA would think about US culture as they drove along an Interstate highway through any built up area of the country. There is a porn superstore every 10 miles and a stripper bar every other 10 miles. Every ten minutes you pass a fireworks mega store. Now interspaced between the porn, the strippers and the fireworks are endless fast food joints selling the worst food on the planet. Everywhere there are tens of thousands of motel rooms. Nowhere do you see anyone actually walking anywhere except in parking lots. The majority of the people you see seem to be 100 pounds overweight!!!
Is this the American culture Y'all are referring to.
The very fact that immigrants continue to risk their lives to have a piece of the American dream shows that they want this lifestyle and they desire this system. As I said before, if it weren't the immigrants, much of this country would be dominated by left wing economic policies supported by white liberals. Labor cost would have gone through the roof. This country would become a dysfunctional social democracy where employers have to listen to employees and their preachy liberals who think they know better.
This country has enough empty land for new cities, suburbs, and housing development. More people is better for capitalism. We actually need more immigrants. Foreigners come here for a better life. Reasonable cost of living. Low taxes and freedom. White picket fence. 2.5kids. It's the American dream. It's that dream of having acres of land, on which a family can play with laughters. It's that dream of retaining the fruit of your own labor, instead of being taken by the Danish government. It's that dream of seeing your kids grow up in a free country to be independent human beings. It's that dream of a convenient life with minimum government intrusion.
Immigrants ia the corner stone of American capitalism. It is the best friend of the corporate business community. It is the bedrock of American society. It is the one thing we can do, that the left surprisingly don't oppose, that would help fiscal conservatism to preserve our political liberty and economic freedom.
If this is true, then I'd love to hear more conservatives here in this thread speak up in favor of diversity. Do you welcome diversity? And if so, why? From a conservative point of view, what is it about diversity that you feel is worthy of your welcoming?
Speaking for myself as someone who would not identify as a conservative: I welcome diversity because I believe that it is a true source of strength - both for individuals and for societies. I'm having a hard time pinpointing just exactly why diversity - generally speaking - tends to be a source of strength. This is part of what I was hoping people might discuss here. Part of the answer seems fairly obvious to me, and in my previous posts I've already mentioned some reasons why I think diversity is basically good. I think that creativity is essential to the health and flourishing of almost any social system, and creativity depends on diverse thinking and diverse perspectives. Take science, for example. How well would science work without a great diversity of perspectives? We come to understand things by looking at them from many points of view. Of course balance is needed. A certain amount of order - some unity of purpose - lends useful stability. But too much stability is simply death.
Diversity is not always pleasant and comfortable, just as growth and exploration are not always pleasant and comfortable. But I welcome it.
I'm a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. I fully embrace diversity. Diversity is important to capitalism. Diversity prevents a dominant group such as preachy lefties from bullying a smaller sized group without criticism from a variety of other sources. The matter of the fact is that authoritatianism breeds on majority homogeneity. When one group of people decide that you should not abort or that you must pay a "living wage", and when there isn't enough diversity of opinions, then the bully calls the shots.
In the 50s, we had so much unionization partly because the country was not diverse, immigration wasn't free and easy yet, so workers shared so much in common and became complacent and greedy toward benefits and salaries. Today, companies are full of workers from all over the world, some of whom are temporary. The far left can not easily find audiences and followers in this crowd as they did in the past.
Take another example. Liberals could wear t shirts that said "religion is stupid" and would not get in trouble in those hippie years. The Christians and Catholics won't respond harshly. Today we have lots of Muslims in America. Try wear that t shirt again and let's see what happens. Guess what, hippie free speech should have limits. And his includes professors who tell students they are stupid and their parents are stupid. White rednecks can't fight back effectively. Do that to an immigrant child and the professor would be in cultural sensitivity training. The matter is that liberals took advantage of the lack of diversity. Now true diversity is here, it makes a lot more sense. Watch your words. Don't assume everybody is a singing to the choir liberal. And oh, immigrants have started fleeing to the suburbs to build their life.
Social conservatives today dislike diversity because they fear they would lose authoritarian control. But fiscal conservatism looks at diversity very differently.
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