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Thats going to happen no matter what. Automations going to kill our employment levels while increasing productivity.
Yeah that's what I said I agree it has nothing to do with the minimum wage. Sheetz the big gas station chain like Giant Eagle's GetGo already has touch screen monitors where you order your own food. On top of that from what I understand that pay a decent wage for the type of jobs that are there.
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Originally Posted by whogo
Automation has been going on for a 150 years without killing employment levels.
i already know the dates. I want you to say with a straight face both the dates and prove that there were no ill effects on workers because of that increase.
Then you can tell us about the previous minimum wage increases, I'll give you the dates:
Jan 1, 1978
$2.65 for all covered, nonexempt workers
Jan 1, 1979
$2.90 for all covered, nonexempt workers
Jan 1, 1980
$3.10 for all covered, nonexempt workers
Jan 1, 1981
$3.35 for all covered, nonexempt workers
Apr 1, 1990
$3.80 for all covered, nonexempt workers
Apr 1, 1991
$4.25 for all covered, nonexempt workers
Oct 1, 1996
$4.75 for all covered, nonexempt workers
Sep 1, 1997
$5.15 for all covered, nonexempt workers
Jul 24, 2007
$5.85 for all covered, nonexempt workers
Jul 24, 2008
$6.55 for all covered, nonexempt workers
Jul 24, 2009
$7.25 for all covered, nonexempt workers
Nothing sticks out to you With those dates? Maybe this will help...
January 1980(I)
July 1981(III)
July 1990(III)
March 2001(I)
December 2007 (IV)
Sooo you want to point to 5 out of many many wage increases...and say that while less then half resulted in X, I totally believe they are the cause of y?
Are you really trying to say that? REALLY?
Hey who here think raising the minimum wage caused this last recession, please hold up your hand!
Yeah that's what I said I agree it has nothing to do with the minimum wage. Sheetz the big gas station chain like Giant Eagle's GetGo already has touch screen monitors where you order your own good. On top of that from what I understand that pay a decent wage for the type of jobs that are there.
You can't be serious with that statement.
Do you not recognize the industrial revolution and the computer age has produced jobs as quickly as it eliminates them and is the reason most of us are not one famine away from going hungry today?
Liberals-- do they know anything about history?
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Sooo you want to point to 5 out of many many wage increases...and say that while less then half resulted in X, I totally believe they are the cause of y?
Are you really trying to say that? REALLY?
Hey who here think raising the minimum wage caused this last recession, please hold up your hand!
Did ya notice recessions quickly followed the '81 and '08 increases?
Are you stupid? Do you not recognize the industrial revolution and the computer age has produced jobs as quickly as it eliminates them and is the reason most of us are not one famine away from going hungry today?
Liberals-- do they know anything about history?
I'm guessing you're the stupid one. Since you obviously know nothing about the history of the auto industry. Your statement claimed automation has never eliminated jobs. This is false and there's tons of examples of it. It most surely has, robotics did just for starters. Grow up now k thanks...don't take your lonely Saturday night out on me. We're talking about what happened years and years after the Industrial Revolution.
Yes because god knows, people shouldn't have healthcare or sufficient food.
Seriously, your argument is that we should impoverish people that are working rather then god forbid....making a incredibly profitable company pay them reasonably.
You love taking money from hard working Americans to support the leeches. How can working Americans afford to pay for their own healthcare and also pay for leeches?
What? You think if we increased minimum wage that suddenly walmart would reduce its employment? Seriously, they got hammered last year in the stock market over not having enough employees.
REALITY: Every time we have increased minimum wage there has been no corresponding jump in unemployment or inflation.
But somehow despite dozens of examples....you want to argue this time is different?
When you pay somebody more than they earn, where do you think the money comes from? The tooth fairy? No, it comes from hard working Americans.
Thats going to happen no matter what. Automations going to kill our employment levels while increasing productivity.
No, it's not. Higher labor costs drive employers to seek alternatives such as automation. If labor is cheap, businesses would not be investing billions in automation.
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I agree it has nothing to do with the minimum wage. Sheetz the big gas station chain like Giant Eagle's GetGo already has touch screen monitors where you order your own food. On top of that from what I understand that pay a decent wage for the type of jobs that are there. 
