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Old 01-22-2015, 06:30 PM
 
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You're history is wrong or you don't know what plutocratic means.
No, my history is not wrong and you have no idea what you're arguing. This argument is made from pure ignorance, nothing else.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:32 PM
 
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And? Businesses will figure out how to become monopolies with or without governments. You are confusing the issue, public or private doesn't matter, the issue is human nature.
Yep

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So called Communism
So called Capitalism
So called Socialism
and so on ...

They all have one thing in common that breaks the theoretical principles on paper.

Corrupt Human beings climbing their way to the top rigging the game to benefit they and their cronies and having everyone else pay for it.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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It would be like the bastard child of German fascist dispassion and Russian Stalinist megalomania.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:35 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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The only way you can be a monopoly in a free market is to be drastically better than everyone else.

Government intervention creates monopolies. Free markets destroy them.
And if you had a great idea, say steam power or electricity or the wheel or any number of technology, you can easily be drastically better than everyone. You can viciously and violently surpress someone stealing or taking your idea and technology.

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No, my history is not wrong and you have no idea what you're arguing. This argument is made from pure ignorance, nothing else.
I agree, pure ignorance on your part.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:38 PM
 
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And if you had a great idea, say steam power or electricity or the wheel or any number of technology, you can easily be drastically better than everyone. You can viciously and violently surpress someone stealing or taking your idea and technology.
How?



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I agree, pure ignorance on your part.
Nope.

You can't "clever" your way out of being 100% wrong.

Like the argument above, everything you argue is based on pure nonsense. No facts or logic support what you say.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:38 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Yep

Add
So called Communism
So called Capitalism
So called Socialism
and so on ...

They all have one thing in common that breaks the theoretical principles on paper.

Corrupt Human beings climbing their way to the top rigging the game to benefit they and their cronies and having everyone else pay for it.
Yep. Public or private, humans will figure out how to rig the game. I just prefer a system where we can vote, rather than outspend in order to enact change. However, our American campaign laws that favors political contributions as free speech are quickly eroding that.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:39 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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How?
How, how? It was pretty straightforward. To add, are you going to reset everyone's wealth in this free market world because we both know that wealth will be accumulated by fewer people than more people.

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Nope.

You can't "clever" your way out of being 100% wrong.

Like the argument above, everything you argue is based on pure nonsense. No facts or logic support what you say.
LOLOLOLZ. Well prove it since I'm 100% wrong.... that should be easy if you aren't some uninformed liar....
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:45 PM
 
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How, how? It was pretty straightforward. To add, are you going to reset everyone's wealth in this free market world because we both know that wealth will be accumulated by fewer people than more people.
No, "we" don't know that, because it is totally false.



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LOLOLOLZ. Well prove it since I'm 100% wrong.... that should be easy if you aren't some uninformed liar....
No, you're the one making false assertions. I don't have to prove you're wrong. It's obvious on its face and you're the one making up this hobgobble.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:47 PM
 
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And if you had a great idea, say steam power or electricity or the wheel or any number of technology, you can easily be drastically better than everyone. You can viciously and violently surpress someone stealing or taking your idea and technology.
Again, I ask "How?"

No more nonsense assertions, made up stupidity.

Tell me the means.
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Old 01-22-2015, 06:52 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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No, "we" don't know that, because it is totally false.

Again, I ask "How?"

No more nonsense assertions, made up stupidity.

Tell me the means.
How do you know it's totally false? Do you know about the concept of "tragedy of the commons"? Of course you dont.....


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No, you're the one making false assertions. I don't have to prove you're wrong. It's obvious on its face and you're the one making up this hobgobble.
Well if it's obvious on it's face, then it should be really EASY to prove me wrong. I don't think you can....
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