Step son has to stand up for pledege of allegiance. (flag, kids)

[Bulldogdad]

Well I see the OP hasn't returned since we started questioning the veracity of the situation as presented.

[atlaw]

Originally Posted by reed067

So my step son goes to a charter school he has most of his life. This year he is in the 8th grade.
lately he has been complaining that he has to stand up during the pledge of allegiance. We all had to do this as kids ourselves & times have changed for better of worse. Should children have to stand for the pledge if they don't want to? The school is writing kids up if they don't stand & take part in it.
This is not about religion not as far as we are concerned. Yes, there are times in his life that he is going to have to do things he doesn't agree with. Is the school forcing children him & taking away his rights or should he suck it up & deal with it? This could be put under the same as prayer in school if you wanted to take it that way. I'm surprised that this is happening here in Asheville, NC considering how liberal it is here. Granted it's still the bible belt. He asked his mom if he should fight it or just go along with it. She said it was up to him & how far he is willing to take it.

You should and he should be ashamed. This has nothing to do with religion. can't believe this post!

[MIKEETC]

Originally Posted by atlaw

You should and he should be ashamed. This has nothing to do with religion. can't believe this post!

Eh?

He said that in the post you quoted:

Originally Posted by reed067

So my step son goes to a charter school he has most of his life. This year he is in the 8th grade.
lately he has been complaining that he has to stand up during the pledge of allegiance. We all had to do this as kids ourselves & times have changed for better of worse. Should children have to stand for the pledge if they don't want to? The school is writing kids up if they don't stand & take part in it.
This is not about religion not as far as we are concerned. Yes, there are times in his life that he is going to have to do things he doesn't agree with. Is the school forcing children him & taking away his rights or should he suck it up & deal with it? This could be put under the same as prayer in school if you wanted to take it that way. I'm surprised that this is happening here in Asheville, NC considering how liberal it is here. Granted it's still the bible belt. He asked his mom if he should fight it or just go along with it. She said it was up to him & how far he is willing to take it.

[metroxian]

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

The right to obey authority figures without question? Not much of a right.

You. I like you.

Then they're not mature enough that to pledge allegiance, either. If you can't understand consequences, then what value is your pledge?

Would be nice if more people could and would responsibly practice non-conformity.

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

Forced participation in patriotic pageantry is different from actual patriotism.

Kinda like toilet practice. If you don't learn you may never know. Seems the anti-1% protests showed some principle in that.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by reed067

So my step son goes to a charter school he has most of his life. This year he is in the 8th grade.
lately he has been complaining that he has to stand up during the pledge of allegiance. We all had to do this as kids ourselves & times have changed for better of worse. Should children have to stand for the pledge if they don't want to? The school is writing kids up if they don't stand & take part in it.
This is not about religion not as far as we are concerned. Yes, there are times in his life that he is going to have to do things he doesn't agree with. Is the school forcing children him & taking away his rights or should he suck it up & deal with it? This could be put under the same as prayer in school if you wanted to take it that way. I'm surprised that this is happening here in Asheville, NC considering how liberal it is here. Granted it's still the bible belt. He asked his mom if he should fight it or just go along with it. She said it was up to him & how far he is willing to take it.

I thought you were unschooling him.

[metroxian]

Originally Posted by Driller1

There are things in life we "have to" do.

We force people to wear clothes in public.

By forcing people to wear clothes are we taking their liberty??

I've often wondered if certain ladies were wearing anything under those burkas... as an act of defiance. Like... who's gonna look to see?

[atlaw]

as I said nothing to do with religion. they brought it up and referred to the "Bible belt" as well. He should stand

[Ih2puo]

Originally Posted by mlassoff

He has the right not to stand.

However, it's disrespectful and silly.

Children have the right to be told what to do.

[reed067]

Originally Posted by atlaw

You should and he should be ashamed. This has nothing to do with religion. can't believe this post!

The reason I said that it because there are those christians who believe that it is about religion. And its not.

[reed067]

Originally Posted by Bulldogdad

Well I see the OP hasn't returned since we started questioning the veracity of the situation as presented.

Excuse me for holding down a job.