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Old 01-25-2015, 09:58 AM
 
Location: North America
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Shows your lack of knowledge about our Country.

In MANY parts of the Country it is part of life there.

You have no clue what a culture like that is if you think that. Hunting for your food =/= a hunter gather society. Hunter gathers don't grow crops, they don't use modern equipment, fabricate everything themselves, and they travel in very small groups. When you can list the groups in America that do that then place post them here for us to see :-P. And no, the guys on Mountain Men do not count.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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I may be wrong but I believe that respect is earned, not taught.
NOT at 12 or 13. You TEACH your children to SHOW respect. When they become adults it is then their CHOICE.

Just like in the military many respect the uniform but, not necessarily the person wearing it.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:03 AM
 
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If you had read the rest of the thread you would know that I was speaking of his parents liberty to allow him not to stand.
I believe this is charter school which means you have to apply for entrance.

It should be stated in your agreement to send your child there that you will support ALL the rules and practices of the school.

If you disagree with any of them then you are free to NOT to send your child there.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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Yeah sorry, that doesn't work. All of those things benefit a child in the long run. Saying the pledge does not. You need to come up with a better argument than that :-P.
"Saying the pledge does not" Strictly your OPINION which I disagree with.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:10 AM
 
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Maybe some people don't respect this Country? And you can chuck out the inevitable "Why don't you go to *insert depostic Country here* if you don't like it here?" response you have cooking up, because I have heard it before.
"if you don't like it here?" response you have cooking up, because I have heard it before.["

Being you are such an expert in reading peoples minds and foretelling the future, what is the next Power Ball number?

YOU need to quit "ASSUMING" you KNOW what people will say. It makes you look foolish.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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Does what surprise anyone?
DuH! What you posted, "Personally I think the pledge is one of the dumbest things out there."
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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You have no clue what a culture like that is if you think that. Hunting for your food =/= a hunter gather society. Hunter gathers don't grow crops, they don't use modern equipment, fabricate everything themselves, and they travel in very small groups. When you can list the groups in America that do that then place post them here for us to see :-P. And no, the guys on Mountain Men do not count.
"Hunter gathers don't grow crops, they don't use modern equipment, fabricate everything themselves, and they travel in very small groups"

Are you really this ignorant?

Never mind. Don't bother to answer.
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I believe this is charter school which means you have to apply for entrance.

It should be stated in your agreement to send your child there that you will support ALL the rules and practices of the school.

If you disagree with any of them then you are free to NOT to send your child there.
Again, this has been covered. Charter schools are still public schools, funded by tax dollars. You can be denied because of grades. You can be denied because of lack extracurricular activities. You can't be denied because of political views and you can't be forced to conform to theirs. If that is what you want, there are plenty of private schools that will accommodate you.
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:02 AM
 
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So, I'll ask again.....what school is this so that maybe someone could get their side of the story?
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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Default The shotgun wedding approach to patriotism.

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Of course your kid should be able to disavow the pledge and reject the very principles that give him the right to do so. That's what we have been fighting for all along. Hundreds of thousands of American patriots have died the World over protecting people like your kid who have no understanding of why we fight for them. You and your prodigy are quiet welcome.
People should abstain from exercising their rights in gratitude for having them? That makes no sense.

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IMO, there is NOTHING WRONG with teaching respect for your country.

If schools are allowed to teach "sex education" why not respect for our country?

If NOT in school then where and when?
Teach the country's ideals, history and current actions, then the students will respect it all on their own. Or not. "Respect" instilled by rote repetition of a pledge enforced by fear of not conforming is the lowest kind there is.

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He is a juvenile and NOT allowed to do many things and is "forced" to do many things.

Is he "free" to drive at 13, 14, 15?

Is he 'free' to NOT go to school?

Is he "free to buy alcohol?

Is he "free" to NOT take English or math? etc., etc., etc.?
What value is a forced pledge? Surely, one isn't bound to abide by any pledge not given out of free will.

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