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Old 01-26-2015, 04:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I wasn't aware Israel existed as a state during the Ottoman era.
Israel (land of Judea ) existed BEFORE the ottoman era
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:42 AM
 
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So one side builds homes while the other side bombs. Yep, those evil home builders are war mongers (sarcasm). Those people who strap bombs to mentally disabled children, blow up a children's toy store, bus stops, fire rockets at schools, hide rocket launchers near public buildings, and store munitions in schools built by the UN are just peaceful people.
Israel has a lot more bombs and military might than Palestine.
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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No one not even Israel recognizes the West Bank as Israeli land.
really???

what are some of the major cities/towns in "the west bank".....Bethlehem, Hebron and Jericho..... definitely Israeli land
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:59 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Israel has a lot more bombs and military might than Palestine.
But Hamas fired 100s of rockets daily from the Gaza Strip indiscriminately in multiple directions and thus not caring what they hit. Israel fired back with a few missles at the infrared hot zones that they were fired from.
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:48 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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what are some of the major cities/towns in "the west bank".....Bethlehem, Hebron and Jericho..... definitely Israeli land

Shhhh.

The Jewish deniers want people to think the Jews never inhabited those areas under the Ottomans or under the British. They also don't want others to know that the West Bank was named that after the 1949 Armistice by the Jordanians, thus the WB never existed before then.
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:53 AM
 
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PALESTINIAN IRE

If I understand the controversy, it goes something like this:
Doofus European Jews, funded by widespread drives, buy some crappy land sold by crafty Locals. City boys and girls, with hard work and scientific methods, turn around and transform that crappy land into some of the most productive farmland in the Middle East. Sellers are embarrassed / remorseful.

Along comes the golden opportunity. The British are about to leave and transfer administration to the two power blocs - Jews and Muslims. The Jews promise peace and justice, etc. While all the Islamic neighbors plan to exterminate the Jews. The neighboring countries give a "friendly" warning to fellow Muslims to "get out of the way," and not to defend their lands against fellow Muslim invaders / liberators. Everyone assumes that Israel will fall, and so the Palestinian Muslims abandon their properties ahead of the fireworks.

But Israel prevails. D'oh. Plan backfires.

This is compounding the insult upon Islam - not only are they shown up to be lousy incompetent farmers, now they're shown up as lousy incompetent fighters.

Much loss of face.
Unacceptable insult to Islam.

To compound the situation, the refugees are unwilling to return and swear allegiance to the victorious Israeli government, and instead adopt the mantra, that Israel must be exterminated, lest she shows up Islam even more.

This is acceptable to the rest of Islam, and thus we come to the present.
...

While Israel ever increases agricultural output, is self sufficient, and exports food, what about her Islamic neighbors? Net food importers. What does this picture show?

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India has lot to learn from Israel on agriculture sector - Economic Times
Thanks to cutting-edge technology, Israel not only produces most of its own food, but also exports $1.3 billion worth of agricultural produce annually. This includes farm products as well as some $1.2 billion worth of agricultural inputs and technology sold overseas every year. Israeli farmers and scientists have had to contend with a difficult environment and limited water resources...
If you want reasonable people to have discussion with you, I suggest you DON'T start with "Doofus European Jews"

I quit after that.

Have fun in the playground.
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Old 01-26-2015, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Israel (land of Judea ) existed BEFORE the ottoman era
Judea was eradicated by the Romans who grew tired of the Jews thinking they were independent of the Roman Caesars. It got the name Palestine because the Roman were sure as Hell not going to call it Judea after largely wiping out Jewish civilation in this land between Egypt and Syria.
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:59 AM
 
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Israel has a lot more bombs and military might than Palestine.
And they do one hell of a job being very careful using them.

If Israel chose to do so, they could expel every non-Jew from their country and do whatever they please.

They show remarkable restraint.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:04 AM
 
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Israel doesn't have enough room for the ultra orthodox and their high birth rates.

They need another place for these people to settle. I think this is why the Soros team is keen on depopulating Ukraine.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:06 AM
 
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I don't get it, if Israeli wants peace, as they claim, why do they continue to build settlements which the international community (except the USA government under occupation of AIPAC) condemn?

It doesn't make sense, if a people want peace why do they continue to take land from those they occupy?
Maybe because tens of thousands of European Jews are fleeing their countries because they've become "unsafe," and are moving to Israel?
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