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Old 01-27-2015, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Who is, "we"?


This is bigger than you want it to be.
There are laws congress passed and the President signed, stating we do not negotiate with terrorist.
The President broke those laws.

But that is just the tip of the iceberg. There is a lot more to it then that.

Trading a criminal that betrayed his unit, for criminals that wish to kill us all.
This has got to hit OBAMA below the belt.
How many times have we heard "tip of the ice berg", IRS, Benghazi.....then nothing.

We don't know the details of his desertion, there was no 30 day notification of congress, these prisoners would have been released anyway at some point at least this was for a good cause.

If they decided to execute him and we just sat by you would be good with that decision?

 
Old 01-27-2015, 07:09 AM
 
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Originally Posted by finalmove View Post
On O'Reilly tonight. Army intelligence officer Tony Shaffer made the announcement. This is going to blow up bigtime.
no it wont.


the idiots in the co-oted propagand media at NBC ABC CBS CNN wont even report it. or if they do, it will be a 20 second blurb with barely any mention of who this dirtbag is.

They will not point out Mission Accomplished nor will they repeat what Bammer and company gave up for the dirtbag
 
Old 01-27-2015, 07:24 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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The Obamabots are working hard with the denial and deflection in this thread. If their mode of "thinking" is anything like this in real life, it's a wonder they could ever hold down a job or function in the adult world.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I believe that Bergdahl has much to answer for, some of which is far more damning than simply having walked off. Many have suffered because of his actions: his fellow soldiers, their families, none of this suffering was inevitable. None of it had to happen.

War is a dirty business, Some who have seen combat will struggle with it for the rest of their lives. Some will never have the opportunity. This deserter has a chance to live, he was lucky. But he must suffer from the consequences of his own actions. wondering how can he possibly make peace with himself.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 07:34 AM
 
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Yes, we don't leave people behind.

This isn't a case of leaving someone behind, or having them 'fall into the hands of the enemy'. Bergdahl left his outpost of his own volition and sought out the enemy. There is a huge difference between leaving a fallen comrade, and someone bugging out to willingly join with the enemy.
He needs to get busted down to private, dishonorable discharge, loss of all benefits, and then serve prison time - after he's proven guilty of course.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 07:40 AM
 
Location: DC
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We did the right thing bringing Bergdahl back.

It appears we are doing the right thing by putting him on trial.

If the court finds him guilty, the military will punish him.

The system worked. There is no political issue involved.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 07:45 AM
 
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Isn't that the military law?
Isn't what the law?
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Originally Posted by alphamale View Post
He was a deserter. That automatically revokes your status as an American citizen.

Obama loved the sideshow that he put on at the WH with bergdahls parents for the muslim world. In reality, he should have been hung as a traitor, not held up as a hero.
He hasn't been convicted of desertion.



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Originally Posted by Bulldogdad View Post
Pay for his crime of getting eight soldiers killed.
There's no evidence of that. Soldiers died on patrols that they had to go on whether Bergdahl had be missing or not.

This has already been stated. The 8 soldiers dead while looking for him nonsense has never been proved.

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Originally Posted by Spot View Post
Roger that.

I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy

That's the promise we make when we deploy. We bring back our own. Even when they fail us, we don't fail them.
Correct. Don't know why that's so hard for these folks to understand.




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Originally Posted by TXStrat View Post
Yes, we don't leave people behind.

This isn't a case of leaving someone behind, or having them 'fall into the hands of the enemy'. Bergdahl left his outpost of his own volition and sought out the enemy. There is a huge difference between leaving a fallen comrade, and someone bugging out to willingly join with the enemy.
You don't and can't know that until you have Bergdahl in custody.


Quote:
Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Who is, "we"?


This is bigger than you want it to be.
There are laws congress passed and the President signed, stating we do not negotiate with terrorist.
The President broke those laws.

But that is just the tip of the iceberg. There is a lot more to it then that.

Trading a criminal that betrayed his unit, for criminals that wish to kill us all.
This has got to hit OBAMA below the belt.
If your problem is with Obama, then impeach him.

Again, Bergdahl isn't a criminal until you convict him of a crime.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
Isn't what the law?

You don't and can't know that until you have Bergdahl in custody.
Bergdahl is in "custody." He is assigned to Ft. Sam Houston. The investigation into the case is complete as reported recently, so an Article 32 hearing should be happening in the near future. It isn't going to be a tough case to prosecute. Bergdahl communicated his intentions via notes left at the outpost in Afghanistan and via communication with friends and family, both of which have already been widely reported.

Current Situation via the Daily Mail
 
Old 01-27-2015, 08:15 AM
 
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I feel badly for Bergdahl. I really really do.

First conservatives were po'd and angry that President Obama wasn't doing anything to free him. Many, many, many, many, many, many conservatives were attacking the administration for his being held and they demanded the President bring him home.

When President Obama brings him home conservatives immediately go in the opposite direction and attack President Obama for getting Bergdahl and how he is a blah, blah, blah.


conservatives put the young man through the meat grinder of conservative media/ideology that produced such reporting and facts as ACA death panels And no go zones in France and England.

Now, self identified conservatives must think that freeing Bergdahl was yet another President Obama blunder so they have to demonize Bergdahl.
UMM, blaming conservatives, while President Obama put a label on Bergdahl by releasing Gitmo detainees under the Bergdahl name. Wonder if these terrorist plan on doing charity work, in third world countries.

Why would President Obama make a deal releasing a soldier in exchange for terrorists. Seems to me his words "give back my soldier or else" would work.

A strong leader of the USA should be feared with respect, not thought of as a push over. Those detainees should have been released on being innocent, not a trade for terrorist.

Bergdahl wanted to see what was over the mountain, only to be captured. My question all others captured have been killed, why was Bergdahl given special treatment.....journalist worth nothing, soldier worth prisoner exchange.

Glad his family didn't have a video in exchange as many other families have. Some do say their remote life in Idaho has changed........President Obama sure has a touch of turning most things to dust.
 
Old 01-27-2015, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Right, and that's not new.

The "leave them for the critters" attitude is something never seen before in US, not even during the Vietnam era anti-military rioters. I have not seen such open hatred for servicemen before.
People have always hated deserters.
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