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Getting us away from the animosity that has just been recently occurring in this thread, I'd like to have the opportunity to chime in now if I may.
I'll preface this by saying that I am an openly-gay 21-year-old male. I'm "masculine" in that I like working out, yard work, cars, watching hockey, playing baseball, and marathon training. I have grown up in a very socially conservative household, but that had no bearing on the fact that I turned out as a homosexual. When the whole "nature" vs. "nurture" arguments come to light I must always side with "nature" as no amount of "nurture" in secretly crying inside while my father made cruel comments about gays could have turned me heterosexual.
Emotionally I'm middle of the road. I'm good at holding back tears during very sad movie endings, while enduring pain, or when being told tragic stories, but at relatives' funerals or during romantic break-ups I don't feel ashamed to blubber like a baby (nor should I be, as venting such extreme grief is HEALTHY, contrary to "macho man" belief). Socially I'm a liberal living in a conservative area who was formerly targeted by an anti-gay neo-Nazi, which has lead me to develop some very good self-defensive mechanisms. Constantly hitting a brick wall when talking to many people in my area about social justice issues has also taught me patience and perserverance.
I'm the type of gay guy who could work beside you for three years without you knowing my sexual orientation until you saw my MySpace profile or saw my partner visit me on my lunch break. As such I am also very attracted to other "masculine" guys (in-shape, rough around the edges, a risk-taking or even dominant streak, etc.), which as others already alluded to are becoming an endangered species in my area of metrosexuals. I am currently in a relationship with an effeminate guy, and trying to realign my personal preferences has been a very daunting task (but one I'm committed to working on).
Well, that's enough of my babbling. I just wanted to show you that "effemeniate" and "homosexual" don't always need to go hand-in-hand (no pun intended). I was really irked by reading a few comments who assumed that gay people fit the feminine stereotype (crocheting doilies, wearing tutus and tiaras, having lisps and limp wrists, etc.) Even if this WERE the case though and I WAS someone who had a lisp, why should it matter? I've only expended the time to read half of the replies before my own (It IS way past my bedtime now), yet I didn't not see even one credible reply as to why men becoming more emotionally "in-touch" was such a terrible thing. The military comments were a bit out-of-line, as I'd feel perfectly comfortable myself as a gay male fighting overseas than a musclebound, belching, scratch-happy meathead jock, which is the persona many of you THINK I should emulate.
Thanks for sharing your views. I agree with you too. It doesn't always mean gay = effeminate.
I'd like to know if anyone else views that confusion of roles has anything to do with the initial question of the feminization of the American male. I do.
I suppose I am confused. What do you mean by confusion of roles?
I suppose I am confused. What do you mean by confusion of roles?
Well, why or how has the american male become feminized? Has he been feminized by roles? Primary caregiver of the children while mom becomes the breadwinner. If that's for you, I say live and let live, but for me I don't think I could respect my husband if he made nothing or less than me. I like being cared for while I care for my kids. Yes, not all think that way. Yes, I know its not the only way. That's just my thinking.
I blame TV-series like the Sarah Connor Chronicles, Bionic Woman, Alias, Buffy the vampire slayer and such.
All the women there are tougher than the men. No wonder that I as a male want to woman up.
I blame TV-series like the Sarah Connor Chronicles, Bionic Woman, Alias, Buffy the vampire slayer and such.
All the women there are tougher than the men. No wonder that I as a male want to woman up.
I was thinking more of manning up after seeing "Casino Royale."
I blame TV-series like the Sarah Connor Chronicles, Bionic Woman, Alias, Buffy the vampire slayer and such.
All the women there are tougher than the men. No wonder that I as a male want to woman up.
We are not matching them. She's in hair and makeup and he's picking up the exotic sports car from the garage.
Do guys always fall for the "smoke and mirrors" thing?
I guess it's me, cauz I don't give a damn about cars or material wealth.
I'd pick a (hot dirrrty sexy) girl over material wealth anytime.
So, euh, I guess the answer is yes?
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The military comments were a bit out-of-line, as I'd feel perfectly comfortable myself as a gay male fighting overseas than a musclebound, belching, scratch-happy meathead jock, which is the persona many of you THINK I should emulate. 
What do you mean by confusion of roles?
No wonder that I as a male want to woman up.
Nah, James is no match for a girl like Buffy.
