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That's what we were told in grade-school history classes, yeah. But there's a long and very real history behind Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. If you're interested in understanding history rather than blindly regurgitating what you were told as a kid... well google is a good place to start.
I mean this is the Information Age. There's really no excuse for such a limited, ethnocentric view of the world.
The US basically bankrolled Hitler through the political shenanigans of Prescott Bush, who got incredibly rich (See:Thyssen and UBC) doing so. Money was funneled into Germany for the purpose of rebuilding their military machine.
Then we backed Japan into a corner with the oil embargo.
Basically, our own calculated largesse and arrogance created the perfect storm for WWI part Deux.
Yes, if winning the war was their intent. Since winning is secondary to making certain entities freakin wealthy, the last 50 years of losing wars have been a stellar success for them. Rinse, repeat.
There has been no legitimate war since WWII, period. The initial several weeks of bombs reigning down on Afghanistan should have been enough. It worked in Libya, and we had no business putting boots on the ground once we had decimated the Taliban and sent them into the hills. Not to mention that we could have done this 100X as needed, and not lost a single life in the process.
Right! And I mean no disrespect to those who for example have served in Vietnam, but we went there under the guise of "stopping the spread of Communism." Yeah, how did that work out? Now let's look at Iraq. Don't tell me for one damn minute that region is more stable since we went in there. Yes indeed it is all politics, and about keeping certain people's pockets lined!
Who do you think these bad people are? Haven`t you ever thought about that sometimes (especially past few decades) these BAD PEOPLE are the American Army and rulers with corporations? Are we the world`s policemen? Look at the recent events not from the pseudo-patriotic side
I'd bet you crawl under the bed every time you see a black helicopter.
Ok, so that's three wars justified. Congratulations. You picked Hitler and the country that attacked us on two occasions. Try a little harder to get past the typical 'our military rocks' mentality though. Every war after WWII, why did we do it? The majority of them were **** measuring contests between us and the USSR. The various conflicts in the Middle East that have been occurring for the last 20-30 years have been about economic gain.
You're right of course, there are bad people in the world, but why are so many being ignored. Kim Jong Un is objectively the worst dictator currently alive, yet our only true act against them was a James Franco movie. African and South American dictators and warlords run free. And probably one of the worst offenders of war crimes in the last few decades is still at large, but it would be rather hard for the US to invade itself.
This isn't a banana republic. This country should NEVER step back and LET the military do anything without strong civilian oversight. The military should always be kept on an extremely tight leash.
And for the military to have the right to declare when a war is over is beyond ridiculous.
Man, you're living in the wrong country.
Then stand by while politicians interfere with every little brush fire that pops up and gets the US involved and wants the military to take care of the problem except the military gets hamstrung because of politics.
When the bullets start flying, nothing else will work until the enemy is destroyed in its entirety. Otherwise what will happen is...........................well, look at current events. That's what you get when politicians try to horn in thinking they know more when what works is when all the protagonists are dead.
I can think of one other incident that would have involved nuclear weapons if people let you have your way. Korea would be no more, and I imagine Vietnam as well. No, your idea that the military should not answer to civilian leadership is as bad as any other right-wing idea. We've seen this.
And if MacArthur had his way, we wouldn't have some jumped up little sh**bag dictator. There would be no North or South Korea, only Korea.
That's what we were told in grade-school history classes, yeah. But there's a long and very real history behind Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor. If you're interested in understanding history rather than blindly regurgitating what you were told as a kid... well google is a good place to start.
I mean this is the Information Age. There's really no excuse for such a limited, ethnocentric view of the world.
Actually there is no excuse for the Japs actions on Dec 7, 1941.
And if MacArthur had his way, we wouldn't have some jumped up little sh**bag dictator. There would be no North or South Korea, only Korea.
In regards to Korea, I do have to ask this; when are the North Korean people going to grow tired of being dirt poor, starving, and watching friends and relatives hauled off to prison or killed because of this little psycho and his family? I mean, there has to be factions even in the military that hate the little f***er and would support a revolt!
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Actually there is no excuse for the Japs actions on Dec 7, 1941.
Well... they did take the bait and made the move toward aggression based on our embargo, and sanctions placed on them. And what a way to unite the American public at large. In fact, those in DC were banking on it, as they wanted to get involved even before 1941 even though the American public wasn't having it. The funny thing is, Japan pretty much knew what the final outcome would be by choosing to go to war with the United States, but proceeded to do so anyway.
Actually there is no excuse for the Japs actions on Dec 7, 1941.
They did it for oil.
And, it must have worked.
They ran a whole war after that.
Prolly got it from the Bushes.
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Now let's look at Iraq. Don't tell me for one damn minute that region is more stable since we went in there. Yes indeed it is all politics, and about keeping certain people's pockets lined!
