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What you argued in the first half of your post is your opinion and that is fine, that can be debated if needed, but that isnt what I responded to.
Hawaii4ever, posted outright lies in his example that have never even been the policy of the Democratic Party, nor was it defended or championed by Party members. If you dont want to be a Democrat, thats fine, but Hawaii4ever's post reek of right wing rhetoric, not any actual grievances with the Democratic party. No one who used to be a Democrat would talk about their former party that way. Heck, i was never a Republican and i dont even talk about Republicans that way.
In short, Hawaii4ever isnt talking about educating himself, he is posting right wing rhetoric and trying to sugar coat it in being a "former Democrat".
What was wrong with this part of the post...... I just feel like the Democratic Party used to be a beautiful thing and has become incredibly hypocritical, disappointing, and weak.
Seems about right to me! Any party that has to reach back a 1000 yrs to prove a point is somewhat crazy. Along with acting like thousands of white Christians didn't die to end slavery. Where has this President said one thing positive about Christians or America?
Yep, I can't find nothing wrong with the Dems, nothing at all.
I'm not saying I'd be a Republican. As a Jew ( I know many hardcore ar-right evangelicals hate us), right now there's too much hatred for me to truly want to be a Republican.
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I appreciate your candor. One contention I have is your characterization that evangelical Republicans 'hate' Jews. I actually find (anecdotally) the opposite to be true. Conservatives, neo-cons (& the national Republican Party) seem to be the most supportive of Israel, and most reverent of Judeo-Christian religious kinship.
I find that (so-called) Liberals are the most hostile toward, and patronizing, of the traditional Jewish & Christian value systems, (viewed as superstitious, and/or outdated) but..
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What was wrong with this part of the post...... I just feel like the Democratic Party used to be a beautiful thing and has become incredibly hypocritical, disappointing, and weak.
Seems about right to me! Any party that has to reach back a 1000 yrs to prove a point is somewhat crazy. Along with acting like thousands of white Christians didn't die to end slavery. Where has this President said one thing positive about Christians or America?
Yep, I can't find nothing wrong with the Dems, nothing at all.
The problem is that he enver showed how any of that was true other than generalizations that he cant prove and pointing to activist who are not elected members of the party and who's causes have never been part of the Democratic Party's platform.
If you agree with him, thats fine, but the fact remains that he showed no evidence to support his claim.
As for your Obama point, he was not attack Republicans or Christians, only showing that no religion is perfect and that you should not judge a majority by the acts of a minority. Do you disagree with that point, or do you honestly believe he was just there to bash Christians?????
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But I am staying on topic.
We are talking about the dems, right? And the OP's post discusses the dems, correct?
We(my post and response to the OP) are talking about the specific aspects that the OP pointed out, so no, you are not correct because the debate is more detailed than that. If you wan to debate/discuss Democrats as a whole, i suggest you post to the forum at large, not my specific post if you feel you can to respond to the specific claims made of the OP.
Yet you keep harping about the fact that this post needs to have a very, very narrow focus that suits you alone.
In fact, my post have shown (as have others) that today's democrats are not your grandfather's democrats. While many people have finally made that connection, too many low information voters have not.
Read through this topic and you know who the closed minded, hate-mongers are and it sure ain't the conservatives and republicans posting. We ALL know who the leftist hate-mongers are.
I'm a Jewish conservative. The republican party is far closer to my views. When I was young and ignorant, I was a democrat. Then I became and adult with adult responsibilities. The left is used to lying and lying about republicans is what they do best.
Like someone else posted, join the party and work to change it from within. The op can find a home with republicans or be used by the dems for their agenda.
If you want to see hate, look at the responses from the leftists in this thread and all over cd, DU, etc.
And the right does the same about democrats. It's called politics. And they got you hook, line and sinker instead of thinking for yourself.
As for your Obama point, he was not attack Republicans or Christians, only showing that no religion is perfect and that you should not judge a majority by the acts of a minority. Do you disagree with that point, or do you honestly believe he was just there to bash Christians?????
Not even 48 hours after ISIS shocked the world by releasing their video of an execution they carried out by putting a man in a cage and burning him alive, Obama was saying "We shouldn't get on our high horse" and then talked about the Christian crusades, the Inquisition, slavery and Jim Crow. Basically, his response to an unspeakable act of evil was, "We do bad things, too."
Well, let's see...The crusades happened about 1000 years ago and lasted for about 200 years. But the Muslims had their own 900-year-long "crusade" of bloodily trying to conquer Europe.
The Inquisition happened about 500 years ago and targeted Christians and Jews at least as much as it targeted Muslims.
Obama claimed that slavery was justified in the name of Jesus Christ. He failed to mention that the abolitionist leaders opposed to slavery were Christians. Leading opponents of Jim Crow were also Christian.
I'm sure that ISIS and Al Queda were pleased with Obama's speech, since it dovetailed nicely with their recruitment propaganda claim that we are "crusaders."
Obama doesn't need to OPENLY hate white people, Jews, Christians, capitalism and America...and he doesn't need to OPENLY side with radical Islamists, terrorists, illegal aliens, Communists and race hustlers....in order for it to be crystal clear where he stands on these issues -- along with his Democrat supporters.
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