AGW: The Fiddling with Temperature Data is the Biggest Science Scandal Ever (gasoline, conspiracy)

[lookb4youcross]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

You really know nothing about climate science do you? None of the things you mentioned are ignored.... Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Earth System Science

How do you expect to swing skeptics to your side with an out right insult right off the bat? Just because some aren't climate scientists, or aren't an immediate climate change alarmist when told to be, doesn't mean anything, the data is freely available and can and will be scrutinized.

[ContrarianEcon]

Junk science If you don't like the result then change the data.

[hawkeye2009]

Originally Posted by sanspeur

You really know nothing about climate science do you? None of the things you mentioned are ignored.... Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Earth System Science

EXCEPT

1. the fossil record

2. solar activity

3. wobble in the eliptical orbit of the earth around the sun

4. volcanic activity

5. the impact of other gases (water vapor and methane)

6. the fact that temperatures have not changed at all over the last 20 years


................................ just a few things.

Unlike YOU, I actually-

1. have an advanced degree in science

2. have published extensively in the scientific literature

3. have formal training in bench science

4. have taken courses in statistics to understand the statistical validity of data

5. have taught at major universities

6. have edited papers for the scientific literature

7. understand the cornerstone of science- refuting the null hypothesis.
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[Icy Tea]

I think we've got enough evidence to begin to look into criminal conspiracy charges against those supporting global warming and measures and government policy aimed at combatting it. Some like Obama will claim stupidity but those like Al Gore who have made millions in the scam may face prison.

[PullMyFinger]

Interesting article here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...ndal-ever.html

[TheDusty]

There are people who believe every word of various religious texts are literally true in their entirety, so I'm gonna go with no on this one.

[PullMyFinger]

Originally Posted by TheDusty

There are people who believe every word of various religious texts are literally true in their entirety, so I'm gonna go with no on this one.

I agree that Global Warming has become a religion for many.

[rbohm]

Originally Posted by Spatula City

AGW is the only, best theory to explain the warming trend. And yes, there is a warming trend... your 20 years of no warming is a LIE. The burden of proof is on YOU to come up with a better theory.

that may be correct IF you only take the last 150 years into account. but if you look at the last 2 million years(actually 65 million years, but i wont confuse you too much) you will note that according to the geological record there has been a general COOLING trend. for instance this interglacial period is ten degrees cooler than the previous interglacial, well outside the margin of scientific error.

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by rbohm

that may be correct IF you only take the last 150 years into account. but if you look at the last 2 million years(actually 65 million years, but i wont confuse you too much) you will note that according to the geological record there has been a general COOLING trend. for instance this interglacial period is ten degrees cooler than the previous interglacial, well outside the margin of scientific error.

And?

[dv1033]

So who here can explain the consequences of releasing an increasing amount (unit of measurement is gigatons) of greenhouse gases that have been stored underground for tens to hundreds of millions of years in a very short time period, geologically. Some how the skeptics fail to see the issue, if increased volcanic activity over decades can change the climate, why can't our actions?