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View Poll Results: Is the practice of stoning a woman to death for adultery an unacceptable and barbaric act?
No, it is in accordance with proper Muslim Law. 8 22.86%
Yes, it is a despicable act and should be banned worldwide. 24 68.57%
No, but it should be applied to Muslim males as well as women. 3 8.57%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-09-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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Interesting... I wonder how many times it has happened in the non-ISIS Muslim countries.
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Old 02-09-2015, 06:49 PM
 
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The Jewish law (in the Bible) also commands stoning for many things including adultery, and worship of other gods, but Jews are not following these laws at this time.

"If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city, and the man, because he has violated his neighbor's wife. Thus you shall purge the evil from among you.

There are no instructions to stone anyone in the New Testament.
The Koran is derived from the Old Testament Mosaic law, so this should not surprise anyone. As far as the New Testament, this is what Jesus had to say on the topic...

"Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst, they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?” This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear.

So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?”

She said, “No one, Lord.”

And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.”

John 8:3-11
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Old 02-09-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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The Koran is derived from the Old Testament Mosaic law, so this should not surprise anyone. As far as the New Testament, this is what Jesus had to say on the topic...

"Then the scribes and Pharisees brought to Him a woman caught in adultery. And when they had set her in the midst, they said to Him, “Teacher, this woman was caught in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses, in the law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But what do You say?” This they said, testing Him, that they might have something of which to accuse Him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear.

So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had raised Himself up and saw no one but the woman, He said to her, “Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?”

She said, “No one, Lord.”

And Jesus said to her, “Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.”

John 8:3-11
Yes, the New Covenant replaces the old. Christians were never instucted to stone anyone, and like I already mentioned, Jews do no longer stone anyone either even though it is commanded in the OT. They say the requirement is no longer valid since the setting has changed.
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Old 02-09-2015, 07:03 PM
 
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Interesting... I wonder how many times it has happened in the non-ISIS Muslim countries.
Good question. Its a bit difficult to get what you're looking when you search "man stoned" lol
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Old 02-09-2015, 07:36 PM
 
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And there are plenty of "Christians" who would love that practice to continue, making them no less evil than ISIS members.
Um, me personally....I think that setting people on fire is worse than wishing they would be set on fire.

Just saying.

Oh, and most of the middle east still has pretty draconian anti-gay penalties.

So I'm a little confused at your attempted equivalency defense.
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Old 02-09-2015, 07:37 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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It's not a deflection. Just a comparison since you can't understand others' cultures, maybe you can understand your own, and how it is sometimes perceived, and even persecuted. If you think that Christians are blamed unfairly, then why do you do it to others?

Your dim and narrow view of the world is holding you back.
No, it's a deflection from the current ISIS, Al Qaeda and apparent "loan wolf" jihadist problem. An excuse for leftists to whine about their boogeymen Christians. Nothing more.
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Old 02-09-2015, 07:37 PM
 
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Yes, the New Covenant replaces the old. Christians were never instucted to stone anyone, and like I already mentioned, Jews do no longer stone anyone either even though it is commanded in the OT. They say the requirement is no longer valid since the setting has changed.
It's interesting how the Jews no longer follow Mosaic law, although strict adherence to it was thought to bring their salvation. When you actually look at the Jewish laws, they are pretty brutal, although in the context of the times, you had pagans sacrificing their children to Baal or Molech. Nowadays you have Muslims strictly adhering to the Mosaic laws that they took from the Old Testament, that do not even apply to them since they are not the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They claim to be the true 'Chosen' of God, but they are the descendants of Ishmael.

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Old 02-09-2015, 09:37 PM
 
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Um, me personally....I think that setting people on fire is worse than wishing they would be set on fire.

Just saying.

Oh, and most of the middle east still has pretty draconian anti-gay penalties.

So I'm a little confused at your attempted equivalency defense.
Several prominent Evangelicals in this country created the Ugandan law to exterminate gays. The Family Research Council donated money to Congress to try to make sure the bill went through.

While no doubt setting someone on fire is a horrific, depraved act, orchestrating genocide is pretty darn evil.
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Old 02-10-2015, 04:49 AM
 
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It's interesting how the Jews no longer follow Mosaic law, although strict adherence to it was thought to bring their salvation. When you actually look at the Jewish laws, they are pretty brutal, although in the context of the times, you had pagans sacrificing their children to Baal or Molech.
Yes, I have thought about where Jews got the idea that it is ok to not obey the Mosaic law. They were supposed to believe in Jesus too, but they rejected Him as well. The NT speaks about the partial hardening of their hearts, which is an act of God, so that could explain it. Either way, God has not abandoned them, and the hardening is temporary.

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Nowadays you have Muslims strictly adhering to the Mosaic laws that they took from the Old Testament, that do not even apply to them since they are not the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They claim to be the true 'Chosen' of God, but they are the descendants of Ishmael
They are descendants of Abraham, but as you say the Mosaic law does not apply to them as they are not Jews, and have invented their own religion, just like the pagans in Abrahams time.

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Old 02-10-2015, 05:01 AM
 
Location: America - Still Land Of The Free
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How other countries handle their 'criminals' is their business.

If that happened here in the US, the perps would be arrested and sent to trial, no matter their religion.

Unfortunately it does happen in the US.
As do beheadings.

Remember the 2 young girls who were beheaded in OK, for not converting from Christianity to Islam not too long ago?

This CRAP is happening in our own backyards. Unfortunately most people's eyes are closed.
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